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Offline wuu

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
It is my turn.





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Well, to get the right shot at the right time, is not easy.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2005, 02:13:20 pm by wuu »
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Offline Goober5000

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
It is my turn.

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Wow... that fourth picture is excellent. :)

 

Offline FireCrack

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
^yeah, but the HUD is on... and it's not an HTL model oar anything...
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline wuu

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
^yeah, but the HUD is on... and it's not an HTL model oar anything...

K no Hud. Wich one is a htl model the perseus, deimos, I use 3.6.7 and the mv.vp files ?




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Thx for info PhReAk
« Last Edit: November 23, 2005, 04:31:27 pm by wuu »
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Offline phreak

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
no gifs as well -- they're limited to 256 colors.  use png or a low-compression jpeg.
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Offline TrashMan

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
Hm...I posted better pics of hte Orion and Hecate on hte wikipedia..

Looks like someone removed hte Hecae pics, but hte Orion is still there..
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Offline Fineus

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
I wasn't going to post this up, but since I used one of CP5670s pics in it - well - here you go :)



 

Offline BlackDove

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
Evolution of what? That image makes no sense whatsoever. Wing Commander Prophecy to whatever to Freespace?

Resounding no to whatever you intend on using that for.

Can't anyone get some good fighter+cap+explosion shots with pretty nebulae without the HUD? ****+O isn't that hard to press.

wuu's come closest so far but the Hatshepsut is mundane, mostly because it's still low-poly, and that shot of it isn't much appealing.

Metal Destroyer's first image would work had it been without the HUD and the ugly third person Pegasus engines.

 

Offline Fineus

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
What do all three images have in common? Here’s a hint – they’re all space sims. Perhaps it's not blindingly obvious, what with the space ships and all…

As for your criticism of everyone elses images I'm afraid I have to point out the obvious again. If you've that much criticism then you do better. If you've time to find faults then you've time to give it a shot yourself.

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Offline BlackDove

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
Even if you put it in that context it still makes no sense, what with the fact that Prophecy was released more or less side by side with FreeSpace 1. It was most assuredly not a project that stood out in many ways, considering FS outshined it dramatically. Also let me point out the obvious faults regarding the order in which they're set, the actual images not looking good whatsoever when compared to the background, the fact that the HUD is visible in the third image, and the most painful one of all - no reference to where they're from. The only reason I know where the three are from is because I played the games. I'll take a stab that those who didn't play the two that are not FreeSpace will not get it.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings and you needed to be sarcastic about it, but if you wanted to convey what you say you did, there are many better ways to be going about it.

As far as the Wikipedia image goes, I already picked out the obvious selection which should go if we're going to pick something that's been posted already, but I think we all know that there are better screenshots out there.

Oh and, I would give it a shot myself days ago, it's just that a Pentium 200mmx doesn't take shots that look so great. This isn't charity play and we all know what "proper" constitutes. Make a shot properly and let it be the representation. SHEESH.

 

Offline Fineus

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
Hurt my feelings? Heh, I wouldn't give you that much credit. I made the image for my own amusement and have no intentions of using it anywhere - that has been a fact from the start. The order in which they're set is a fairly obvious chronological one. Prophecy was released before Freelancer and the SCP is still going now after that. In theory no further explanation should be required as the audience here is you people and myself. We all know what those games are.

I'd be interested to know what these "better ways" are. I'm sure they exist, and you don't need to produce anything. I merely challenge you to come up with the ideas so that I can learn what you had in mind.

As for your lack of graphics card power - it's obvious that I didn't know that before. Be that as it may I accept your criticism of what other people have done. It's a shame you can't do anything about it yourself.

 

Offline CP5670

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
I like the idea, but it's not really clear what the games are at a glance. Try adding in labels on them and maybe making the pictures not overlap so you can fully see all of them.

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
WMCoolmon's check-list for screenshots
  • Turn off the HUD
  • Turn on AA (if possible)
  • Look out for thruster jaggies
  • Look out for too-dark ships
  • Careful that what's happening is understandable (stuff blowing up is easy to understand, for example. ;) )
  • Stay still - blurry stars look bad.

I have some more screenies I could upload, but I doubt they use the new FX.
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Offline Fineus

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
I like the idea, but it's not really clear what the games are at a glance. Try adding in labels on them and maybe making the pictures not overlap so you can fully see all of them.
Fair enough, that's something I can appreciate. I've a couple of concepts of basic improvements I could make based on this and BlackDoves comment about the background being more impressive than the foreground.

 
Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
It'd be nice if you could still change targets in 'magic pause' mode: you can rotate but not move to other objects.  It'd make framing easier.

 

Offline Flaser

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
I'm not a genius when it comes to image manipulation, but you should take a look at how the SCP trailer is being made.

A trailer? - you ask.

Yes:
A) It's kinda hard to take the split second 'perfect-shot' (even camera pro's take several and then 'pick' the 'right' ones.)
B) Even with Virtual Dub you can easly grab any frame from a video file - and AFAIK FRAPS isn't that hard to use.
C) Actually with the camera sexps now availible the 'perfect shot' shouldn't be an in-misison occurance by chance - FRED it.

So the things to make the perfect shot are:
1) A FREDer familiar with the camera-sexps
2) A badass computer to run the mission and FRAPS it.
3) Brushing through a couple of thousand frames (it's easier than that - you play it, catch something nice, go to the next keyframe and then check frame-by-frame for the best screenshot) to get the 'right' one.
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Offline FireCrack

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
Where can i get the new starfeilds?
actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944 59230781640628620899862803482534211706...
"Your ever-constant homily says flaw is discipline, the patron saint of imperfection frees us from our sin. And if our transcendental lift shall find a final floor, then Man will know the death of God where wonder was before."

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
mv_effects 3.6.7
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Offline Singh

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
I took these pictures whilst shooting the Showcase trailer. I still have the high quality PNGs, or if needed, the missions themselves if anyone is interested in either using them, or taking a much higher-detailed shot in-game. :)







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Offline Singh

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Re: Wikipedia needs a better FSO pic.
last one for the moment. Ill have some more up soon with the HTL Lucifer.



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