Author Topic: Them be fighting words.  (Read 802 times)

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Offline redmenace

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Them be fighting words.
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/01/20/tgdaily_interviews_amd_q1_2006/

Thing is that, it is this very smug attitude that has doomed many companies before.
Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
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Offline aldo_14

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Re: Them be fighting words.
http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/01/20/tgdaily_interviews_amd_q1_2006/

Thing is that, it is this very smug attitude that has doomed many companies before.

Based on my understanding, it's not all that smug.  I think Intels problems with their memory access architecture (I forget the technical details; IIRC to do with the memory controller being on-motherboard rather than on-chip) have given them a well documented problem in the server side market, and even if they have updated their architecture (not just for the server but eventual dual core and 64-bit markets), they still have a bit of a credibility/image problem to redress with the companies that switched.

In any case, I think you have to bear in mind that these guys, when they give interviews, have to be smug and arrogant and bullish and whatnot, because any negative or even neutral comment risks affecting the share price.  I'm not sure I'd take any attitude from an interview to be one that's actually prevelant across the actual company, because of the vagarities of PR.

 

Offline redmenace

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Re: Them be fighting words.
well to put it simply, AMD has a huge uphill battle to gain more market share. Yes they are technically now a better processors than Intel. However, Intel still has agreements with manufacturers and honestly some people see AMD as a generic processor. People like you and me and other avid gamers know otherwise but most people are not like you and me.
Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
              -Frederic Bastiat

 

Offline Nix

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Re: Them be fighting words.
Maybe if AMD started  making TV commercials slamming how mac's do stupid menial jobs.....

Sorry, I'm still bitter....  Yes, I know it's not Intel's Ad... Still...

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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Re: Them be fighting words.
Nah, AMD just needs a way to make their product directly marketable. Which they've been decent at doing, I guess. But Intel had the little spacesuit guys, the blue guys, all pretty recognizable and they're associated with computers and windows, things that people directly use.

I don't remember an AMD commercial and the only symbol or representation of them that I know of is the little green arrow thing.
-C

 

Offline aldo_14

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Re: Them be fighting words.
Nah, AMD just needs a way to make their product directly marketable. Which they've been decent at doing, I guess. But Intel had the little spacesuit guys, the blue guys, all pretty recognizable and they're associated with computers and windows, things that people directly use.

I don't remember an AMD commercial and the only symbol or representation of them that I know of is the little green arrow thing.

I remember seeing quite a few AMD adverts on the hoardings at footie games, but their general presence is rather poor.  If they want to expand more in the private-user market, they'll defo need to work on that area.

 

Offline Grey Wolf

Re: Them be fighting words.
Based on my understanding, it's not all that smug.  I think Intels problems with their memory access architecture (I forget the technical details; IIRC to do with the memory controller being on-motherboard rather than on-chip) have given them a well documented problem in the server side market, and even if they have updated their architecture (not just for the server but eventual dual core and 64-bit markets), they still have a bit of a credibility/image problem to redress with the companies that switched.
Your facts are a bit off. While it is true that Intel's memory controller is part of the northbridge as opposed to part of the CPU, that's not what makes enterprise customers unhappy. The thing that makes them unhappy is one memory controller for all the processors on a single motherboard, which means that the more processors you add, the less memory bandwidth you have for each, causing limited returns.

The competition between northbridge and CPU-based memory controllers has pros and cons on each side:

Northbridge-based:
Pro: Easier to upgrade, as northbridges are replaced far quicker. For VIA-based Socket A, for example, the memory controller had at least five versions (KT133, KT266, KT333, KT400, KT600, and KT880).
Con: Higher latency.

CPU-based:
Pro: Lower latency.
Con: Requires a new socket when the memory controller is changed (See Socket 754, Socket 939, and Socket AM2), and a new revision of the processor.
You see things; and you say "Why?" But I dream things that never were; and I say "Why not?" -George Bernard Shaw