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Offline Kazan

  • PCS2 Wizard
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someone give me motivation to work on it :P

i want to finish it, i just lack the motivation
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"The Mountains are calling, and I must go" - John Muir

 

Offline redsniper

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Come on Kazan! We need PCS 2.0 and all the POF editing goodness it will bring us. You're the only one who can do it!
How's that?
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Offline Setekh

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Yeah man. It's a great resource for everyone - as if the sheer challenge of writing isn't motivation enough, think of how much it benefits others. Go for it. :yes:
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Offline Trivial Psychic

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There are things that PCS 1 can do that MODview can't, and visa versa, as well as a few things that n'either can do (such as view in non-pcx textures).  Both are also memory and CPU hogs, buggy, and tend to crash (no insult intended to Kazan for his efforts on PCS1 and its sustained upkeep).  From what I've seen, PCS2 will be significantly faster, more stable, and incorporate the best of both and then some.  In the future, it could even be made to incorporate new features that the SCP team could unlock, that we haven't even heard of yet.  PCS2 could revolutionalize how pof files are converted and prepared, being the most popular single moding tool for Freespace (and possibly more... Fe2) of all time!

PCS2 needs to be brought to fruition, so that we may all praise Kazan and his support team for their hard work and dedication...
followed by the inevitable pleads and badgering to fix bugs and incorporate new features.
The Trivial Psychic Strikes Again!

 

Offline FireCrack

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  • meh...
PCS 1 makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

Please do it... for my eyes.
actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944 59230781640628620899862803482534211706...
"Your ever-constant homily says flaw is discipline, the patron saint of imperfection frees us from our sin. And if our transcendental lift shall find a final floor, then Man will know the death of God where wonder was before."

 

Offline Kazan

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bash 1.x all you want [when justified] i made a lot of mistakes in it and i learned from them :D
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"The Mountains are calling, and I must go" - John Muir

 

Offline FireCrack

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heh, it's not that bad, infact the ability to import stuff from other models is great, but data entry could use some boosting in feedback, and it could use some stuff to make it more powerfull (and less buggy)
actualy, mabye not.
"When ink and pen in hands of men Inscribe your form, bipedal P They draw an altar on which God has slaughtered all stability, no eyes could ever soak in all the places you anoint, and yet to see you all at once we only need the point. Flirting with infinity, your geometric progeny that fit inside you oh so tight with triangles that feel so right."
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944 59230781640628620899862803482534211706...
"Your ever-constant homily says flaw is discipline, the patron saint of imperfection frees us from our sin. And if our transcendental lift shall find a final floor, then Man will know the death of God where wonder was before."

 

Offline Skippy

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someone give me motivation to work on it :P

i want to finish it, i just lack the motivation

Just Do It ™
« Last Edit: January 24, 2006, 12:26:49 am by Skippy »
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Offline Nuke

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if you dont work on it, im gonna break into your house and steal your copy of everquest :D
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Offline Col. Fishguts

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Well, most of us wouldn't be here without PCS 1.x, so do it.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2006, 06:21:19 am by Col. Fishguts »
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Offline Bobboau

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do eet, or I vill keell your brozer! grahahaha!
do it or you'll be a quiter and everyone will laugh at you
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Offline BlackDove

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Speaking of which, where are you hiding Bobbo?

Also, PCS 2.0 would be nice to have indeed for a great many things.

 

Offline Kazan

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if you dont work on it, im gonna break into your house and steal your copy of everquest :D


which of the four copies? (have to buy a copy for each account for account keys - i have two accounts and fiancee has two accounts)
PCS2 2.0.3 | POF CS2 wiki page | Important PCS2 Threads | PCS2 Mantis

"The Mountains are calling, and I must go" - John Muir

 
So, it is for the love of a woman that you have forsaken PCS 2.0?

Completely understandable. To be engaged to her you must also believe that She is THE ONE. Congrats! Lucky devil you.

So, before giving up on the stars and all the dreams you had as a boy and on the wonderlust that burnt your soul when tearing up the brand new copy of FS2 once-upon-a-time, can you find it in your heart to finish the one thing you will be remembered by years from now?

Yes, I am talking of PCS and its son PCS 2.0.

Just think about it for a sec. People have done amazing things just for their name to stand the test of time. Killed others, Burned temples to gods noone believes anymore, or went forth to conquer whole continents. That is what people remember people by. Their contribution. Their mark.

It took 2 things. Opportunity and Willingless to skip the "why should I bother" or "hasn't been done ever" mentality most people are taught since their birth.

Now, you can go forth and be happy with your better half, playing warcraft online till you both have had enough and leave it, be it 2 or 5 years from now. But you will be amongst the millions who do. Your opportunity will have eluded you.

So it is in this here point in time, that you can help us, that you can help freespace. It is way past its' dying hour, (I assume you remember all those "Freespace is dead" threads), yet it really needs PCS 2 to become a DEFINITE storytelling medium for all those of us who won't give up the dream of stars that we were all mesmerised by, when we were kids.

You have the opportunity, you must now find the willingness. Why? Because only you can do it. You know the intricacies of your own code, the quirks and boulders that hide therin, you are the only one who can navigate it and make it workable and usable for the rest of us. It is the thing you will be remembered by, when you feel like looking back into space, 2,5 or more years from now. I know freespace will be around, and so do you. My name will be nowhere. Yours will be the next thing any noob will learn. as in...

1) FS2 open
2) PCS 2.----------> And when someone opens it up, and runs it, it will lead to its creator Kazan.   And believe you me, by then most early things like "Iraqui freedom" or its evolution "Weapons of mass Fraud-uction" will be way gone.

But PCS 2 won't. Because it will be the springboard that will lead to a million possible words, much like a blank page with a pencil used to. People will be able to translate their dreamworlds using FSopen and PCS 2 into a playable storytelling experience. It may not be the glory of a conqueror, but is glory just measured in blood spilled? Are those who built the Parthenon or Hagia Sophia not entitled to it? 

What would exist now, if they couldn't do it because they lacked the tools? Times have changed a bit. It used to be just artistic value that carried the day. Nowadays (as should), it is the tools that are WAY more important than those who use them, because of their VALUE, and also TIME and BRAINS that made those tools. Everyone can paint, few people can make gimp, and only one PCS 2. 

"Give us the tools to finish the job", was once said in a WW2 patriotic propaganda pic. I will not go that way. I will say that you gave us all a chance to see the best of all possible worlds (considering Fs2 open evolution) with PCS 2.0. Please don't deny us that future. Don't walk away from what would have been it.

Kazan, thank you for reading this (should you reach so far), and do tell your beloved that no matter what you choose to do, RESPECT and admiration of each and every one of us is a given.   
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Offline karajorma

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Do it or GT-Keravnos will post again! ;)


Seriously though I've always been a big fan of PCS and a new version might pursuade me to actually start modelling again.
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Offline Unknown Target

  • Get off my lawn!
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  • Push.Pull?
Could you make it as easy to use as MODLVIEW32 please?
And less crash-prone/major system hoggish?

  

Offline IPAndrews

  • Disgruntled Customer
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  • This site stole my work
:wtf: You know editting pofs is considerably more complex than viewing models... Thus there's a certain degree of complexity that must be present. I didn't think the last one was that difficult to use in all honesty once he'd gotten the preview window displaying everything.
Be warned: This site's admins stole 100s of hours of my work. They will do it to you.

 

Offline StratComm

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There's nothing inherently complex about editing POFs once they are compiled.  It's simply interpreting binary data files in a way that makes more sense to a human operator, none of which requires extensive computation or anything like that.  For what it can do, Modelview would currently be the tool of choice; it just doesn't have about half the features that you'd want in a POF editor working.  PCS works correctly, more or less, but is about as user-friendly as a Battlecruiser game.

The downside of the last version of PCS 1.x was that you had to close the preview window to, you know, actually use your computer.  Just fixing the way that thing refreshed would have made a world of difference (that, and fixing the miriad problems with the glowpoint editor) in making PCS 1.x not so bad to work with.  Plus tab support.
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Last edited by StratComm on 08-23-2027 at 08:34 PM

 

Offline Roanoke

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I never had any problems with PCS.

 

Offline Black Wolf

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Kazan... We've Lauged together*, We've cried together**. Now, it's time for us to part. You have to make PCS 2.0, and I have to feed the duckies.

Please.

Do it for the Duckies.***

*No we haven't. This is a lie.
** Again, this is a blatant lie. I am a liar.
***There are in fact, no duckies.
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