Author Topic: Vista Encryption (Read 6711 times)

Fineus · **Reply #20 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:05:23 am

Wow... that settles it. I guess I'll be staying XP native for quite a while longer.

I don't suppose anyone knows... lets say this happens: You download a movie. You write the movie to a DVD as an .avi file. You copy/paste it from that DVD onto another system. Correct me if I'm wrong but is the actually .avi itself now encrypted as it enters your drive, or is it unaffected as it's technically seperate data? (I'm having a bit of trouble seeing how the whole thing works together).

Goober5000 · **Reply #21 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:07:49 am

Quote from: ZmaN on February 15, 2006, 09:22:09 am

Vista sucks... Halo 2 sucks.... MS Sucks...

They are so rich already.. Why do they need more money? Greedy idiots....

The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

Cyker · **Reply #22 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:24:48 am

I don't know why you people post threads like this.

We all know it's just a load of crap and you'll all upgrade just like the bunch of obedient Microsoft-*****es that you are.

I remember before XP came out - Everyone was like, "Activation? **** that! If they implement that **** I'm gonna boycott them and use Linux!"

Yeah. That happened.

Zuljin · **Reply #23 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:32:16 am

Quote from: Cyker on February 15, 2006, 10:24:48 am

I don't know why you people post threads like this.

We all know it's just a load of crap and you'll all upgrade just like the bunch of obedient Microsoft-*****es that you are.

I remember before XP came out - Everyone was like, "Activation? **** that! If they implement that **** I'm gonna boycott them and use Linux!"

Yeah. That happened.

If you also paid any attention at all to what happened to the activation thing you'd know that it was cracked pretty soon after XP came out.
The thing with Vista is another matter entirely.. if it's correct that you have to invest in a new motherboard just to upgrade the OS, (let alone paying for the OS itself) it will rather quickly become expensive.
Then there is the matter of the encryption and the licencing thing mentioned above.
I don't want to be told what I can and what I cannot keep on my harddrive, do you?

an0n · **Reply #24 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:35:14 am

I reformat my computer every 30 days because I refuse to activate.

Link To Article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4713018.stm

FireCrack · **Reply #25 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:37:43 am

Activation != buy special motherboard

Flipside · **Reply #26 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:37:48 am

And apparently, there were corporate versions of XP Pro going around the Torrent sites, which didn't require activation, before XP Home had been released iirc.

Besides, activation is one thing, requiring the user to upgrade their motherboard in order to use an OS is a whole other story, it means that every single computer in the world at this moment is Vista incompatible.

It's basically Microsoft taking it's attempt to 'wipe the slate clean' too far, by meaning that only computers made from 'This point onwards' can use Vista. It is a play for market control that ostracises every computer user in the world for the sake of Monopoly.

Janos · **Reply #27 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:39:58 am

Quote from: Goober5000 on February 15, 2006, 10:07:49 am

Quote from: ZmaN on February 15, 2006, 09:22:09 am
Vista sucks... Halo 2 sucks.... MS Sucks...

They are so rich already.. Why do they need more money? Greedy idiots....

The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.

Too bad the love of money is also the root of modern western capitalistic society.
Greed is something very human. It's actually more than that, it's almost universal and it's not hard to figure out why.

This will or will not be implemented and if it is then it's going to be tough **** for us.
New games, applications, whatever? AW HELL NAW UR STUCK IN TETRIS AND UWE BOLL MOVIES BWAAHHAHAHAHHHAHAAA

knn · **Reply #28 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:49:34 am

Quote from: Kalfireth on February 15, 2006, 10:05:23 am

Wow... that settles it. I guess I'll be staying XP native for quite a while longer.

I don't suppose anyone knows... lets say this happens: You download a movie. You write the movie to a DVD as an .avi file. You copy/paste it from that DVD onto another system. Correct me if I'm wrong but is the actually .avi itself now encrypted as it enters your drive, or is it unaffected as it's technically seperate data? (I'm having a bit of trouble seeing how the whole thing works together).

No no. You download a movie. Vista alerts the FBI. You are arrested because you are a terrorist.

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The system, part of what is called "trusted computing" mechanisms, is designed to stop malicious programs being installed surreptitiously on computers.

Joe Average will believe this BS and be happy that his computer is "safe"

Triple Ace · **Reply #29 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:53:43 am

HOLY CRAP ITS STARTING! MICROSOFT IS TAKING OVER! WE WILL ALL BE TURNED INTO SLAVES!

an0n · **Reply #30 on:** February 15, 2006, 10:54:29 am

Quote from: knn on February 15, 2006, 10:49:34 am

No no. You download a movie. Vista alerts the FBI. You are arrested because you are a terrorist.

A 'subversive'.

Fineus · **Reply #31 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:11:10 am

Ah.. so that is how it works.

Triple Ace · **Reply #32 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:14:41 am

Wait a minute, I found another article. The chip that will be on the mother boards just logs into bitlocker automatically. If you don't have that chip then you can just type the key in or use a usb drive. And it says bitlocker lets YOU encrypt the hard drive. We really need to start doing more research before jumping to conclusions. Please ignore my earlier post.

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,124512,00.asp

Cyker · **Reply #33 on:** February 15, 2006, 11:30:14 am

Quote from: knn on February 15, 2006, 10:49:34 am

Quote from: Kalfireth on February 15, 2006, 10:05:23 am
Wow... that settles it. I guess I'll be staying XP native for quite a while longer.

I don't suppose anyone knows... lets say this happens: You download a movie. You write the movie to a DVD as an .avi file. You copy/paste it from that DVD onto another system. Correct me if I'm wrong but is the actually .avi itself now encrypted as it enters your drive, or is it unaffected as it's technically seperate data? (I'm having a bit of trouble seeing how the whole thing works together).

No no. You download a movie. Vista alerts the FBI. You are arrested because you are a terrorist.

Or in my case, "Don't buy Vista, don't download movie, get arrested under the DMCAEUCDWTFBBQ" anyway

Oooh, but wait... does that mean if the FBI crack your hard disk to try and find evidence, that YOU can use the DMCA against them?! (DMCA protects copyrighted works, and EVERYTHING YOU MAKE is automatically copyrighted, ergo... bwhaha!

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The system, part of what is called "trusted computing" mechanisms, is designed to stop malicious programs being installed surreptitiously on computers.

Joe Average will believe this BS and be happy that his computer is "safe"

*tries to load FerriumSCP v9.87*

"FerriumSCP v9.87 not signed by Microsoft - Not recognised as a Trusted Program, possibly malicious, deleting..."

"WHAT? NO! STOP! ABORT!"

"Sorry Dave, I can't do that. You do not have a Paladium-TPM001 module implanted in your Brain and are an Untrusted platform. Untrusted Platform possibly malicious. Initialising sanitation beams..."

"AII! IT STINGS AND BURNS!"

Ulala · **Reply #34 on:** February 15, 2006, 01:58:25 pm

Hmm. I have a hard time seeing this one fly.

BlackDove · **Reply #35 on:** February 15, 2006, 02:03:33 pm

Quote from: an0n on February 15, 2006, 10:35:14 am

I reformat my computer every 30 days because I refuse to activate.

Yeah, sounds like something I'll be doing.

Nifty that the XP builds these days have dates next to them, helps

with the upgrades.

Taristin · **Reply #36 on:** February 15, 2006, 02:12:46 pm

Quote from: Flipside on February 15, 2006, 10:37:48 am

And apparently, there were corporate versions of XP Pro going around the Torrent sites, which didn't require activation, before XP Home had been released iirc.

Indeed. My version was like that. Unfortunately, M$ caught on and has since denied me access to SP2. And short of slipstreaming an installation, I don't see any way around it.

Inquisitor · **Reply #37 on:** February 15, 2006, 02:16:52 pm

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We really need to start doing more research before jumping to conclusions.

But it's so much more fun to play the martyr!

achtung · **Reply #38 on:** February 15, 2006, 02:25:41 pm

http://www.toastytech.com/

All the anti ms stuff you may need.

But in all honesty, I don't see this one flying either, although, with MS there is always the possibility of some really idiotic business practices working.

Sandwich · **Reply #39 on:** February 15, 2006, 02:38:49 pm

Google OS FTW.

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