[Stealth]

I'm thrilled...

[Blue Lion]

I never saw it.

[Ford Prefect]

I loved Crash. I thought it was an absolutely gorgeous film, and I was extremely glad to see it win. The only other one I would have been okay with was Capote.

[Col. Fishguts]

Crash is an excellent movie, well deserved winner.

But everyone is acting surprised that Brokeback Mountain didn't win best movie. I saw that too, and while it's not bad, it's not spectacularly great either. I don't understand the whole fuzz about "OMG teh cowboys are ghey!!!111".

Maybe a movie about a gay relationship produces more controversy in conservative America than in Europe, but the main reason I heard people talk about Brokeback Mountain around here, are girls having the hots for Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal.

[Flipside]

Heh, considering John Wayne was Gay, I've never understood all the snotty-nosed behaviour about Brokeback mountain.

Never seen Crash, but from the sound of it, it seems it got the rewards it deserved

[SadisticSid]

Offering a gay perspective on Brokeback Mountain - not that I think it's any more relevant - it accomplished what it went out to do, but it bored the hell out of me after the first bit. The photography was fantastic at the start, the men were rather tasty, and the setting beautiful... except it was all done better 18 years before before in a film called Maurice. It was overlooked in its time, I think, because it was somewhat more erotic and slightly more explicit (oh, and British), but everything was done better without the tedious stretches of bugger-all happening. Crash certainly deserved the award, but I was saddened something like Memoirs of a Geisha didn't get offered the top spot.

[Andreas]

except it was all done better 18 years before before in a film called Maurice. It was overlooked in its time, I think, because it was somewhat more erotic and slightly more explicit (oh, and British), but everything was done better without the tedious stretches of bugger-all happening.

A wonderful and excellent film, that. I recently bought the DVD; a true classic. And Rupert Graves as Alec was a one, cute, Sexy beast. 

[Nuclear1]

Crash deserved Best Movie. I have nothing against Brokeback or anything (I thought it was a good movie), but it wasn't nearly as good as the aforementioned Best Picture winner.

Now when the award for Original Song came out, then I was surprised...

[Unknown Target]

Not that I have anything against it, but how many people on this board are actually gay? I've been here, for like, forever, and so has SadisticSid, but I never knew you were gay. Cool.
But yea, the only reason people flipped about Brokeback Mountain was because it was about gay people. Take that out and no one would've given it a second glance.

[SadisticSid]

Well there's nothing like minority issues to bring the Hollywood masses out in waves of support. It's a shame they don't have an award for originality in film, but then that's an attribute they've never cared much for.

[Taristin]

Not that I have anything against it, but how many people on this board are actually gay? I've been here, for like, forever, and so has SadisticSid, but I never knew you were gay. Cool.
But yea, the only reason people flipped about Brokeback Mountain was because it was about gay people. Take that out and no one would've given it a second glance.

*raises hand* >..>

The whole gay issue is just annoying though. I'm sure it would have been generally ignored if the media didn't hype it like crazy. When Bill asshat O'reilly does an episode on the show, it's bound to draw more negative attention.

[Sandwich]

I'm going to see Crash with some good friends tomorrow. Should be fun.

[Stealth]

yeah i bet there are a lot of gays on this board if you actually start searching.

Crash was a great movie.  one of my top 5 movies of all time, along with Road to Perdition and Tombstone

[Ford Prefect]

Not that I have anything against it, but how many people on this board are actually gay? I've been here, for like, forever, and so has SadisticSid, but I never knew you were gay. Cool.
But yea, the only reason people flipped about Brokeback Mountain was because it was about gay people. Take that out and no one would've given it a second glance.

I'm fairly metrosexual-- does that count?

[Wild Fragaria]

I haven't seen Crash, Brokeback Moutain, or Walk the Line.  I will probably see they some day but they aren't something I want to see badly.

It's cool to have a gay community on HLP

[Flipside]

I'm boring ol' Hetero, and used to be terribly Homophobic too, then I realised I was a pretty good musician, and started hanging out with other musicians, many of whom were Gay. That was an an abject lesson to me that the only way you can ever judge people is by getting to know them, not by what your mates, or the papers or anything else tells you about them.

[DeepSpace9er]

Im very homophobic... i scare myself. But seriously, if homosexuality is so everyday normal, why does a movie have to be made to specifically point it out?

 When i hear Crash i think of drugs on EVE Online.

[Ford Prefect]

Im very homophobic... i scare myself. But seriously, if homosexuality is so everyday normal, why does a movie have to be made to specifically point it out?

For the same reason that To Kill a Mockingbird was written even though being black is normal.

[an0n]

Crash is ****ing garbage. I despise that film almost as much as Love Actually and Napoleon Dynamite.

Sandra Bullock overacted. Brendan Fraser can't act. Don Cheadle is a one-trick pony. Ludacris apparently wandered in off the set of Barbershop 3. Matt Dillon is just annoying. And the musical score made my goddamn ears bleed.

Brokeback Mountain was fantastic in all but three aspects: The plot, the directing and the casting.

It's self-indulgent, whiney bull**** that moves at a forcedly slow pace to try and feign character depth with long pauses and slow, purposeful movements. And putting Ledger and Gyllehnal up front is just a blatant attempt at whoring to the pink pound. It's the cinematic equivalent of making a documentary series about Jeri Ryan and dealing solely with her lust for fat, poor Star Trek fans with bad eye-sight and some kind of unsightly rash. It's basically soft-core [gay] porn mixed with a horrifically cliched chick-flick.

I'd rather cut my goddamn throat than watch either of those pretentious pieces of **** again.

[an0n]

Oh and Walk The Line kicks ass.