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Offline Ace

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #20 on: March 10, 2006, 05:27:31 pm
Quote from: Nix on March 10, 2006, 04:48:34 pm
One big difference here between the Arabs and the English running those ports.  The UK is one of America's allies, and with the media spinning everything towards the left's viewpoints, we don't truly know where Dubai stands!  Dubai funds Hamas, and supports a boycott of Israel, if you want to play the Racism card.  They're just as bad in this situation, if you believe that the US wants to be bigoted and push out foreign interests.

Riiight 'spinning it towards the left.' So what would the good right-wing media perspective be?

"Dubai funds Hamas which we're against for being a terrorist organization. But Dubai is our great ally against terror!!!!1111oneoneone"

Now your little spiel might have a been a bit more valid minus yet again screaming about the "liberal media."

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #21 on: March 10, 2006, 05:49:14 pm
Quote from: Nix on March 10, 2006, 04:48:34 pm
with the media spinning everything towards the left's viewpoints, we don't truly know where Dubai stands!  Dubai funds Hamas, and supports a boycott of Israel, if you want to play the Racism card.  They're just as bad in this situation, if you believe that the US wants to be bigoted and push out foreign interests.

Quite frankly, I tend to side against Isreal myself. There's really little justification for kicking palestinians off their land to create an artificial jewish state. Any other place in the world, when a peoples land was conquerred, their nation was lost. It happened over and over. Why should Israel have been any different? It fell long ago. And doing what Britain and the US did to recreate it only served to create hostility in the region.
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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #22 on: March 10, 2006, 06:55:01 pm
This whole mess is ****ing embarrising. The democrats AND REPUBLICANS were playing politics. Some members of the GOP want to distance themselves from Bush. The Democrats want to beat Bush on the security issue, and this was their chance. But I disagree with Kosh (no suprise there), I don't think this is ANTI-ARAB. Although I am sure that there is some distrust because of terrorism and Bin Laden. Honestly though, these are business men and it is not in their best interest to smuggle in terrorists or WMDs or whatever. It honestly wouldn't make any sense. That doesn't mean that we should completely trust say the Saudi Royal Family for instance. The best thing Bush should do is exert his power and veto the block. It is the best thing he could do. People might actually start to respect him a little again.

Now in regaurds to funding Hamas, honestly can you blame them? Donate money to the PLA and it will be used for something other that its propper use. Give money to Hamas and it goes to where its supposed to, to the dirt poor palestinians. Yes, it might get use for terrorism, but honestly which is more evil, Hamas, which plans terrorism and helps the poor or the PLA, that practically plot to keep the palestinians poor? I am not anti israel, just trying to be a realist.
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Offline Polpolion

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #23 on: March 10, 2006, 07:22:00 pm
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People might actually start to respect him a little again.

Bush used to be respected?   :eek2:

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Maybe you should follow your tag's advice. By the way, it's "politicians" and "countries". :p

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #24 on: March 10, 2006, 07:28:15 pm
Nah, you'd be banned long before then.
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Offline Polpolion

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #25 on: March 10, 2006, 08:31:33 pm
 :lol:

Probably. It's a good thing that I'm not that dumb and that my ego isn't that huge. Otherwise I'd be gone LONG time ago. Still, one dose get tired of making a laughing stock of one's self.

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #26 on: March 10, 2006, 09:29:59 pm
Raa, Sizzler stop acting like pathetic children.
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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #27 on: March 10, 2006, 10:38:35 pm
Quote from: redmenace on March 10, 2006, 09:29:59 pm
Raa, Sizzler stop acting like pathetic children.

Excuse me? :wtf:
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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #28 on: March 10, 2006, 11:32:50 pm
Quote from: redmenace on March 10, 2006, 06:55:01 pm
This whole mess is ****ing embarrising. The democrats AND REPUBLICANS were playing politics. Some members of the GOP want to distance themselves from Bush. The Democrats want to beat Bush on the security issue, and this was their chance.

So far, I'm not impressed with either political party. Both are showing a major lack of leadership or organization, and unless they can get their act together and start supporting their own leaders or fellow politicians, than we will be in for even rougher times in Washington.
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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #29 on: March 11, 2006, 04:46:04 am
Quote from: Ace on March 10, 2006, 05:27:31 pm
Quote from: Nix on March 10, 2006, 04:48:34 pm
One big difference here between the Arabs and the English running those ports.  The UK is one of America's allies, and with the media spinning everything towards the left's viewpoints, we don't truly know where Dubai stands!  Dubai funds Hamas, and supports a boycott of Israel, if you want to play the Racism card.  They're just as bad in this situation, if you believe that the US wants to be bigoted and push out foreign interests.

Riiight 'spinning it towards the left.' So what would the good right-wing media perspective be?

"Dubai funds Hamas which we're against for being a terrorist organization. But Dubai is our great ally against terror!!!!1111oneoneone"

Now your little spiel might have a been a bit more valid minus yet again screaming about the "liberal media."

Investigative reporting is counter Regan revolutionary.

The Regan is mother. The Regan is father.

Trust the Regan.
If you're thinking I believe in "Fair and Balanced" you're so wrong.  I'd prefer total neutral news reporting before it gets spun off to any political direction.  How does my arguement become invalid by saying reports were spun off to the left? I hear one thing stated on CNN that is stated in a completely different way on FNC, which is different from the programs I hear on our local News Radio 590&940! Nobody's been finding out what's REALLY behind this deal, instead, people are playing politics as usual, and making this whole thing turn out to be a mess!  If we dont' know exactly where Dubai stands, at least the company DPWorld, how in the hell are we going to trust them to operate our ports?  And if the media IN GENERAL cannot report consistently, that's even more reason to distrust this deal before we hear an official announcement from the company, or a report from the 45 day delay process.  Whelp, it's over now, so there's not much more that I can say except for this. Ever heard of the old quote, "better safe than sorry"? 

It applies HERE.
 

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #30 on: March 11, 2006, 05:13:48 am
And, by the way, no fourm could really hold thesizzler at his worst.  People would be stuck downloading his signature, terabytes and terabytes of dashes.
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Offline Kosh

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #31 on: March 11, 2006, 06:41:06 am
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It's OUR country, being an American myself, Why is it so bad for us to run our own ports? What's so wrong with that?

America wasn't running those ports in the first place, unless you count the UK as the 51st state. That is the point you seem to be missing.

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One big difference here between the Arabs and the English running those ports.  The UK is one of America's allies, and with the media spinning everything towards the left's viewpoints

Blaming the media for reporting the truth is not going to change the fact that the UAE is also America's ally. The UAE bends over backward to accomodate American interests in the region (much like Saudia Arabia), and what do they get for it? Nothing.

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But since there wasnt any real disclosure about what's going on with SIX major access points to the United States, I can understand why a lot of politicians say NO to DPWorld.

They are saying no because it is an election year. Seems pretty simple to me. Besides, it was just one foreign company buying another foreign company. It was business, and the American government is trying to block a deal between two companies in which they really have no jurisdiction over it in the first place.
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Offline Polpolion

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #32 on: March 11, 2006, 10:03:05 am
Quote from: Nix on March 11, 2006, 05:13:48 am
And, by the way, no fourm could really hold thesizzler at his worst.  People would be stuck downloading his signature, terabytes and terabytes of dashes.
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you're lucky you guys have a 2000 character limit. even though I only used 1000. including the
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And I'd get bored before I could even make 10mbs of dashes, so you would be lucky. Anyway, I think I'll go back to the "I'm annoying" sig.
 

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #33 on: March 14, 2006, 05:30:01 am
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Offline Kosh

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #34 on: March 14, 2006, 08:38:25 am
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The United Arab Emirates, which includes Dubai, said it was looking to move one-tenth of its dollar reserves into euros, while the governor of the Saudi Arabian central bank condemned the US move as "discrimination

Told you it is viewed as discrimination. As I explained earlier, if the chinese can have a port in LA, why can't Dubai?
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline redmenace

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #35 on: March 14, 2006, 11:37:54 am
Being viewed as discrimination and being racist are different things.
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Offline redmenace

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #36 on: March 22, 2006, 05:50:57 am
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Offline Kosh

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #37 on: March 22, 2006, 06:28:32 am
The problem for the US is that in order to keep the dollar from sinking/crashing, it needs about $2 billion every day in foreign investment. But, with UNOCAL, Portsworld, and now this, people might not be so willing to invest their money in America anymore. Why bother holding dollars if you can't use them to buy anything of value?
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Re: Dubaih port deal "off"
Reply #38 on: March 22, 2006, 06:30:53 am
I really want to blugeon all the senators on Crapitol Hill.
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