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Offline Grug

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I'm not trying to diss the Gamecube like some fan boy or something, but I just don't find it all that appealing.

I was all fired up towards getting one, the small discs and all. I played one over at my  cousin's place, her bf owns all the consoles and nearly all the games too. Pikmin is kinda cool (main reason I wanted it) didn't get a chance to play zelda though. :(

What other games on gamecube can you recommend?

 

Offline Ferret

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"Owns all the games" there's about 400 Cube games. :P

  

Offline Deepblue

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Halo 1 was "rushed" but turned out fantastic. Halo 2 was delayed repeatedly. Since Halo 3 will not be a "launch title" there is no need to rush it and as such it will probably be delayed.

It's inevitable with high-profile games.
Halo fantastic? Are we talking about the same game?

I thought it was one of the most boring and generic things I have ever played in my entire life! It didn't do anything new, and everything it did has been done before in much better ways before it came out.

Halo is dog****.

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If Nintendo can get some good games out on the Revolution (big flaw of the gamecube) then i'm going that way. Tempting to get it just for that Zelda game.
There's a pletora of great games on the Gamecube. About three on the PS2 and a big none on the X-Box.

I see we have a nintendo troll.

Care to expalin why Halo is dog****?

And name what things other games had done before it came out?

Either way, the vast majority of reviewers disagree, with Halo and Halo 2 both on the top 20 list at gamerankings.com with Halo:CE sitting pretty at number 9 with an average of 95.7%.
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Offline Ferret

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I'm not a "Nintendo troll", the PC is my gaming platform of choice. I just know how good the Gamecube is in terms of games.

And what exactly DID Halo do well? The only thing I ever hear people say is vehicles. But WHOOPS C&C Renegade did them a billion times better a long time before Halo.
Let's not even talk about the level design in Halo. *Copy-paste* *Copy-paste* *Copy-paste* *Copy-paste*
And story? Ho ho, the most uninspried story ever. I'll have Deus Ex please.

And if you go by reviews when arguing about how good a game is, then you've already lost my respect.

 

Offline Grug

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*throws bucket of water over thread to prevent a flame*

Cool it fellahs. :p

 

Offline Ransom

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Either way, the vast majority of reviewers disagree, with Halo and Halo 2 both on the top 20 list at gamerankings.com with Halo:CE sitting pretty at number 9 with an average of 95.7%.
Reviews are just another person's opinion, they're no more valid than anyone elses on this forum.

 

Offline Deepblue

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C&C Renegades came out AFTER Halo.

Level design is true... Repetitive maybe, but still damn good for combat. Just like F.E.A.R.

Story is excellent. Three "excellent" books say hi. Go read some reviews if you don't believe me.

Gameplay is where Halo reigns supreme, however. Nothing like getting 16 friends and four Xboxi  with 4 copies of Halo together for a night of fun.

Let's not forget one touch grenades, limited weapons to force strategic resource use, and brilliant AI that genuinely surprised the player with its thinking.

 

Offline Deepblue

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Either way, the vast majority of reviewers disagree, with Halo and Halo 2 both on the top 20 list at gamerankings.com with Halo:CE sitting pretty at number 9 with an average of 95.7%.
Reviews are just another person's opinion, they're no more valid than anyone elses on this forum.
When it's a compilation of all the reviews, yes, it is more valid than one person on a forum.

 

Offline Taristin

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mrah. You all are the same. Everyone loves you if you bash HALO and XBox, but say anything negetive against the game cube almighty and meet a fervor of angry responses. When will you people learn that taste is subjective and that your individual opinions mean little in the grand scheme of things? :doubt:

I see it in every one of these threads.
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Offline Deepblue

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This thread was fine until Ferret came in.

 

Offline Grug

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mrah. You all are the same. Everyone loves you if you bash HALO and XBox, but say anything negetive against the game cube almighty and meet a fervor of angry responses. When will you people learn that taste is subjective and that your individual opinions mean little in the grand scheme of things? :doubt:

I see it in every one of these threads.

But its the internet, people arn't entitled to tastes. :p

 

Offline aldo_14

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When it's a compilation of all the reviews, yes, it is more valid than one person on a forum.

Not necessarily; let's not forget the various professional review sources have more interests than just the truth; they get income from advertising, and (for mags) sales from showing that game on the cover.

 

Offline Taristin

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mrah. You all are the same. Everyone loves you if you bash HALO and XBox, but say anything negetive against the game cube almighty and meet a fervor of angry responses. When will you people learn that taste is subjective and that your individual opinions mean little in the grand scheme of things? :doubt:

I see it in every one of these threads.

But its the internet, people arn't entitled to tastes. :p

Damn annoying. No one seems to be entitled to an opinion anymore. Saying I like HALO will get all the elitists who dispise all FPS on my back, not to mention the FPSers that just didn't like halo.
I could give two ****s if the game does anything new as long as it's fun.  Sonic 3 didn't do anything different than sonic 2 or 1 and it never got bashed like this.
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Offline Ghostavo

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Re: PS3 delayed until November.
Let's not forget one touch grenades, limited weapons to force strategic resource use

Touch grenades have been done before.
Limited weapons? In halo? You're kidding surely?

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and brilliant AI that genuinely surprised the player with its thinking.
:lol: You mean rushing towards certain death?  :lol:

Don't get me wrong, I liked Halo, but it's not something to write home about. It just an above average generic shooter.
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Offline Deepblue

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Re: PS3 delayed until November.
Let's not forget one touch grenades, limited weapons to force strategic resource use

Touch grenades have been done before.
Limited weapons? In halo? You're kidding surely?

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and brilliant AI that genuinely surprised the player with its thinking.
:lol: You mean rushing towards certain death?  :lol:

Don't get me wrong, I liked Halo, but it's not something to write home about. It just an above average generic shooter.

Okay, now I KNOW you're talking out of your @rse.

 

Offline Grug

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Re: PS3 delayed until November.
mrah. You all are the same. Everyone loves you if you bash HALO and XBox, but say anything negetive against the game cube almighty and meet a fervor of angry responses. When will you people learn that taste is subjective and that your individual opinions mean little in the grand scheme of things? :doubt:

I see it in every one of these threads.

But its the internet, people arn't entitled to tastes. :p

Damn annoying. No one seems to be entitled to an opinion anymore. Saying I like HALO will get all the elitists who dispise all FPS on my back, not to mention the FPSers that just didn't like halo.
I could give two ****s if the game does anything new as long as it's fun.  Sonic 3 didn't do anything different than sonic 2 or 1 and it never got bashed like this.

Ahh, classic sonic. Now there was a game. :D
I reckon they should go back to the 2d scrolling sonic, only with 3d graphics. That would be awsome. :nod:

Back then, kids didn't have easy access to the internet. ;)

 

Offline Taristin

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Re: PS3 delayed until November.
mrah. You all are the same. Everyone loves you if you bash HALO and XBox, but say anything negetive against the game cube almighty and meet a fervor of angry responses. When will you people learn that taste is subjective and that your individual opinions mean little in the grand scheme of things? :doubt:

I see it in every one of these threads.

But its the internet, people arn't entitled to tastes. :p

Damn annoying. No one seems to be entitled to an opinion anymore. Saying I like HALO will get all the elitists who dispise all FPS on my back, not to mention the FPSers that just didn't like halo.
I could give two ****s if the game does anything new as long as it's fun.  Sonic 3 didn't do anything different than sonic 2 or 1 and it never got bashed like this.

Ahh, classic sonic. Now there was a game. :D
I reckon they should go back to the 2d scrolling sonic, only with 3d graphics. That would be awsome. :nod:

Back then, kids didn't have easy access to the internet. ;)

Pull a marvel vs capcom 2 and use 2d sprite characters sidescrolling with 3d backgrounds. It looks really good, IMO.
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Offline aldo_14

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Okay, now I KNOW you're talking out of your @rse.

Why?  Because he said it was above average?

 

Offline Ghostavo

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Okay, now I KNOW you're talking out of your @rse.

Why?  Because he said it was above average?

I think he confused me with someone else. It's my first reply in this thread.
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Offline Deepblue

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No. Because he does not seem to understand that Halo was just about the first FPS to limit your inventory to two weapons, and the AI was indeed brilliant and DID NOT blindly charge you. Rather, it would retreat when weakened and use supressive fire effectively while flanking.

Here's a list of what Halo did to advance the genre... (from Wikipedia)

Storyline execution: Halo's gameplay and storyline are tightly interwoven, and delivered in a convincing manner which is consistent with the flow of the game. The cutscenes are edited, providing Halo with characters and locales which interest those who play it.

Vehicles: Halo incorporates many vehicles into its single and multiplayer games, including flying ones. The player can seamlessly change from guerrilla foot tactics to intense vehicle operations. The vehicles range from giant Scorpion tanks to lithe, sleek Ghost hovercrafts, each with its own benefits and drawbacks.

Firearms: The Master Chief can only carry two weapons at any given time, forcing the player to switch between them often, and make trade-offs when choosing which weapons to carry. These decisions can be driven by factors like enemy composition (certain weapons work better on certain enemies), personal proficiency, or even ammunition availability (Covenant weapons cannot be reloaded but must simply be discarded when their batteries run out; the only exception is the needler weapon).

Melees: "Halo" integrated a melee based close range combat mechanic into shooting games, allowing the player to hit an opponent with a gun at any time, a feature which had previously been limited to a special "knife" weapon in past FPS. Melees did a great deal of damage and required a steady aim, again bringing skill into play in the combat. The Double-Melee glitch (BLB) was prominent in higher class games, as it allowed a near instant kill on a close ranged opponent.

Grenades: Halo places large emphasis on the use of grenades. The game comes with an independent "use grenade" button (as opposed to most first-person shooters, in which one must holster one's firearm to throw them), and their proper use is critical to survival. The player can carry up to eight grenades, four of each type (fragmentation and plasma-based), at one time.

Artificial intelligence: Halo's AI was quite sophisticated for the time. For example, the more cowardly types of enemies panic when one of their superiors is killed (sometimes screaming "He killed the Elite! He killed the Elite! Run!", or "Leader dead!" (referring to the Elite)). If a speeding vehicle comes at them, they can dive out of the way, and they can take cover from explosives or suppressive fire. On the hardest difficulties, the Elites will formulate attack strategies and easily destroy your Marine cohorts.

Shields: The player carries a shield which protects all parts of his body from damage. The shield will decrease in strength every time it is hit by a weapon, and will fail after taking enough hits, but will quickly recharge if the player is not attacked for a short period of time. It represents a marked departure from most first-person-shooting gameplay, especially in multiplayer. In Halo, the shield is the player's primary defense, and players who do not learn to retreat and regenerate them will find themselves repeatedly dead. Players who do, on the other hand, can survive almost indefinitely, and to kill such a player requires a concentrated and swift assault. Thus, the shield encourages an almost cerebral level of tactics and decision-making.