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Offline Rictor

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Offline Fineus

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People should be fired for being students. As the rioting proves, they're ****ing jerks.
Oh come on, you read the same page we all did right? Some dicks who - for want of a better word - we can call chavs or pickeys - decided to get violent and screw up everyones day. The whole thing indicates that it was a minority of idiots who cast a bad light on what was otherwise a peaceful protest.

Heck, I find it doubtful they were even students. Probably bored benefit kids who wanted to cause a little damage.

 

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Businesses should be allowed to hire and fire indescriminately (or otherwise).

The simple fact is that the whole point of a business is to make money for the owner.

Now why should the owner be forced to fund the lifestyle of people who he hates?

And while the employee might be making them lots of money, would you take money from a paedophile? A rapist? A feminist? No. So you got no grounds to *****.

And if anyone starts ****ing around, demanding sexual favours from employees for promotions, firing people because they're black - then their company will just end up totally ****ed, with a load of hot women who can't do simple math but can suck cock like a pro running their marketting division with about as much skill as a can of AIDS and nose-diving their business into the ground.

You don't give money to people you don't like, and you don't take money from people who stand for things you despise.

Simple as that.

And incidentally, regardless of wether the protest was peaceful or not, they were still protesting. Would you want to employ someone who understands the concept of civil disobedience?
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If it's the lifestyle you disagree with then don't employ them in the first place. At least then they can keep looking for a place that will take them on. Employing someone then firing them without any explanation? Well that's not helping anyone out - you have to look for another employee and they're left with no idea why they were laid off.

As for them protesting... I thought you of all people would be against lying down and taking something you don't agree with without any protest whatsoever.

 

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Protesting is stupid.

Revolutions, on the other hand....
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Everyone assumes that because they are students they will be fired or screwed over. Frankly, the companies are getting just as screwed over the other way and honestly neither situation is optimal for either group. I honestly don't see what the big deal is. We have this in the US and it is not an issue. We find jobs, we work, and go to school. It is not a big deal. I am not sure what the general attitude and state of the French business enviroment is so it might not be a totally applicable situation. Basically, to put it simply, they are afraid of change and the uncertainty it brings.
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Everyone assumes that because they are students they will be fired or screwed over. Frankly, the companies are getting just as screwed over the other way and honestly neither situation is optimal for either group. I honestly don't see what the big deal is. We have this in the US and it is not an issue. We find jobs, we work, and go to school. It is not a big deal. I am not sure what the general attitude and state of the French business enviroment is so it might not be a totally applicable situation. Basically, to put it simply, they are afraid of change and the uncertainty it brings.

Can companies in the US sack (a specific age group of) people within their first 2 years without having to give a reason, then?  I mean, this applies to any under-26 year old.  So I could move out my house, be living alone, and then be sacked the next year and end up in deep financial trouble, through no fault of my own.

 

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Actually yes, you can. There is no protection in the US according to discrimination laws, for young adults. Now, if you are a woman or an minority that is a different story. I also doubt that anyone would fire an employee just because. It costs money to hire and train an employee and it is not in their best interest to fire young employees left and right.
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It's like DETROIT!!

 

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Only with fewer car thefts and KISS concerts.
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Actually yes, you can. There is no protection in the US according to discrimination laws, for young adults. Now, if you are a woman or an minority that is a different story. I also doubt that anyone would fire an employee just because. It costs money to hire and train an employee and it is not in their best interest to fire young employees left and right.

Lots of places would fire a employee 'just because'; particulalry unskilled jobs (which often employ the poorest and most vulnerable groups), and where it's a good way to save money.  Or even to avoid having to implement some statutory requirements like raises, extra working rights, etc.  Or maybe to sack a pregnant worker before they can excercise their maternity leave.  Basically it removes a bunch of protections you'd have as a worker from being ****ed over by a business, or even by a manager who decides they don't like you.  Bear in mind this is summary sacking, not any process that requires a valid reason for it.

Are you saying the US has laws against race discrimination, sex discrimination- but not age discrimination?

 
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For the first time....ever, I have a strong urge to actually visit Paris. If they threw these sorts of parties more often, it might attract some tourists, no? Germany has Octoberfest, France can have student riots, replete with anarchists, molotov cocktails, barricades, tear gas and everything else that goes into making your stay in the City of Light an unforgetable experience. You could even follow the standard route and overcharge foreigners for everyday things, like "Throw a stone at a cop - $20" or "Light one (1) car on fire - $500".

 
Re: What is it with France and Riots.
WOW! :wakka:

I was eating lunch in the dfac and watched those rioters get sprayed with watter for a good 30min! :yes:

Fat people are harder to kidnap :ha: