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Offline WMCoolmon

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I was thinking of getting a PDA, considering how much the prices have dropped. Basically, something that could
- Play MP3s
- View photos from camera (ie MiniSD or SD reader)
- Store scheduling data
- Maybe be Bluetooth interactive?
-C

 

Offline Nuke

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id get one with a windows terminal client as well. use it as sort of a remote control for your main pc. i thought about getting one a couple years ago but i didnt cause i was waiting for them to get better 3d support. so i really dont know whats on the market theese days.
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Offline Prophet

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Why don't you get one of theose new multimedia phones instead? They're pretty much like PDA's nowdays. And you can use them a s phones as well.
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Offline Nix

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WM, Stay away from Dell's models.  Support has been terrible for the past six months.  X50v owners haven't had a firmware update for nearly a year, and Dell refuses to fix Windows Mobile 5 issues they're experiencing.  X51v's are also experiencing bad problems with WM5.  I'd probably suggest looking at something from HP over Dell at the moment, but I have no idea which model would be the best.  I do have some suggestions on looking for a PDA.

What you want to look for in a PDA though is the type of processor, for sure.  I'd go with the Intel XScale PXA270, the chip that will allow your PDA to run up to 624MHZ.  I steer way clear from the Samsung processors.   Be cautious because some of the PXA chips only go up to 416Mhz, check out the specs thoroughly.  The other things to have in your PDA which I feel are indespenible are Bluetooth AND WiFi.  If they're built in, you don't have to sacrifice a storage slot for that sort of functionality.  Then, treat yourself to a TRUE VGA screen, not a QVGA screen.  Your eyes will thank you later.

If you have a PDA with that kind of horsepower under the hood, you'll have way more flexibility.  Then you can grab a free MP3 player called GSPlayer which basically turns your PDA into an iPod, without the crappy iTunes interface.  Just load up the songs on the card, insert, load them up in the player, and bam, you're set.  As for scheduling and all, every PDA with Windows Mobile 2003 or 5 will come with the pocket versions of Outlook, Word and Excel.  The CD that comes with it will include a version of Outlook for your PC, which you will need to use to make that scheduling data work with Activesync.  Activesync is the syncronization software btw. 

Here's a couple of tips that's worked for me in the past.  If you want to be mobile, and you have a book bag or something that you might carry to class or work, get an extra AC adaptor, with whatever adaptors you'll need to hook it into your PDA.  This way, you can plug in your PDA at work if you're at a desk and not drain your battery.  Second, DO purchase an extra battery.  You won't believe how fast your battery will get sucked down when you start using WiFi.  Bluetooth isn't as bad on the power usage, but it still drains it a lot faster than with it off.  Third, consider buying an aluminum case for your PDA.  RhinoSkin makes some nice cases for most popular brands of PDA out there.  Unless you want the leather-executive look, then I'd go with a Sena or Piel Frama case.  Aluminum tends to be cheaper though, and it looks cool. 

If you have specific questions, I'm sure I can help you out with em.  I've been using Windows-Mobile PDA's for about two years now and I'm way more involved with using it for a glorified calendar, so I know quite a bit about em.  The Aximsite forums lean toward Dell Axim PDA's but are still a good set of boards to read up on if you want to do a little research.  Brighthand forums are more of a catch-all for everyone else, but I think they tend to lean toward the HP brand. 

 

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Offline ZylonBane

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Then you can grab a free MP3 player called GSPlayer which basically turns your PDA into an iPod
Why would you want to turn your PDA into an overpriced trend-whore accessory?

Yes, I will *****slap anyone who uses "iPod" as a synonym for "MP3 player".
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Offline Prophet

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Why would you want to turn your PDA into an overpriced trend-whore accessory?

Yes, I will *****slap anyone who uses "iPod" as a synonym for "MP3 player".
Yes! I will support you on that one. I'll even let you borrow my "Spiked Glove of Slapping +5". I'm pretty sure I have never seen an actual iPod. We only have MP3 players around here. Bought myself one last week. Cost me around 35 €, I think. Now I can listen to Lordi when I'm jogging at nights. And get run over by a car I never heard coming behind me. :yes:
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Offline Janos

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Why would you want to turn your PDA into an overpriced trend-whore accessory?

Yes, I will *****slap anyone who uses "iPod" as a synonym for "MP3 player".
Yes! I will support you on that one. I'll even let you borrow my "Spiked Glove of Slapping +5". I'm pretty sure I have never seen an actual iPod. We only have MP3 players around here. Bought myself one last week. Cost me around 35 €, I think. Now I can listen to Lordi when I'm jogging at nights. And get run over by a car I never heard coming behind me. :yes:

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Offline Nix

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Then you can grab a free MP3 player called GSPlayer which basically turns your PDA into an iPod
Why would you want to turn your PDA into an overpriced trend-whore accessory?

Yes, I will *****slap anyone who uses "iPod" as a synonym for "MP3 player".

Did ya miss the point here?  PDA > iPod.  First off, no proprietary software is necessary to transfer music to a PDA.  I'm not sure about other players but I believe that you have to use proprietary software with Creative products as well.  Going the PDA route, you can do away with DRM as GSPlayer is simply a media player, and will not transform or encode your files with DRM upon transfer.  Also, since the iPod only allows for synchronizing files with one machine only, using MP3's on a PDA is like using a UFD to transfer MP3's between machines.  You could even go as far as transferring files to other devices or comptuers via your WiFi or Bluetooth link!  No iPod allows you to do this.  GSPlayer will also play MIDI files with the MIDI plugins and instrument patches available from the same page, making the PDA still far superior to any MP3 device out there. 
Lighten up.  I'm only trying to help someone who asked for advice on PDA's.  BTW, I actually own an iPod shuffle, perhaps that's why I used the name iPod in the first place, and having owned one, I can actually make an accurate comparison between the two devices. 

 

 

Offline Backslash

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If you get a VGA screen and a fast processor, there's another fun thing you can do:  videos!  The Core Pocket Media Player is an amazing free media player; plays almost everything I've thrown at it.  And with the price drops in flash media, you can carry around a decent amount of stuff.

Even with my older iPaq with a slower processor and QVGA screen, I can watch TV shows while commuting on the bus.  Lots of fun :-)

 

Offline ZylonBane

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Did ya miss the point here? PDA > iPod.
Do you even realize how absurd it is to keep invoking the iPod as something a PDA *isn't* like?

Look, most (or at least, a hell of a lot of) MP3 players these days have none of the loopy iPod restrictions you mention above. You just plug them into a USB port and they show up as a standard storage device.
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Offline Prophet

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Maybe it's because you live in Joutsa. My experiences regarding Joutsa are A) walking around, naked and B) running from angry people, naked.
Usually only during the Joutopäivät festival. And when sufficently drunk ( = fairly often). Don't you like running around naked? Thats odd...

Look, most (or at least, a hell of a lot of) MP3 players these days have none of the loopy iPod restrictions you mention above. You just plug them into a USB port and they show up as a standard storage device.
They also act like strogae devices. You can use them to trasfer other files to another computer. Their size varies from 128 MB to 1 GB and above. And some players also have microphone (they record audio). Their physical sice is about the same as cigarette lighter. I don't know the size of iPod, since I have never seen such a marvel before, but I think they are somewhat bigger.
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Offline WMCoolmon

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I don't really need, nor would I really benefit from, movie-playing ability.

Mostly I'm asking because I realized that a scheduler would be useful, I've been eyeing mp3 players, I've got a couple Bluetooth dongles, my cameraphone uses miniSD, and if I can code for a PDA then I probably have the experience needed to learn how to, fairly quickly. Although the last one is doubtful, I figure it'd be nice to keep the possibility open, if it doesn't cost too many $$.

I've got virtually no experience with PDAs, so this thread is very useful for getting an idea of what's out there...Thankee. :)
-C

 

Offline ZylonBane

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I am soooo tempted to pick up one of these things, but in truth I'd prefer a form factor that wasn't quite so... cuboid.
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Offline Martinus

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iRiver FTW (go ahead, accuse me of being a corporate shill... I dare ya! :p).
After doing a bit of reading myself it would seem that you can only dump tracks onto an iRiver via WMP. Is this true?

If so it would effectively relegate iRiver players to the increasingly large 'POS' pile.

 

Offline Turnsky

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Did ya miss the point here? PDA > iPod.
Do you even realize how absurd it is to keep invoking the iPod as something a PDA *isn't* like?

Look, most (or at least, a hell of a lot of) MP3 players these days have none of the loopy iPod restrictions you mention above. You just plug them into a USB port and they show up as a standard storage device.

ZB has a point, i have one -very- cheap 256mb mp3 player, with gutless battery life and whatnot, an Ipod is usually referred as a -media player- and not a PDA,  the reason why ipods are so engraved on people's minds, is because they're shoddy, white mind-control devices, shipped out to the masses with teeny toshiba notebook HD's.

mp3 player < media player =! PDA

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Offline Janos

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Did ya miss the point here? PDA > iPod.
Do you even realize how absurd it is to keep invoking the iPod as something a PDA *isn't* like?

Look, most (or at least, a hell of a lot of) MP3 players these days have none of the loopy iPod restrictions you mention above. You just plug them into a USB port and they show up as a standard storage device.

ZB has a point, i have one -very- cheap 256mb mp3 player, with gutless battery life and whatnot, an Ipod is usually referred as a -media player- and not a PDA,  the reason why ipods are so engraved on people's minds, is because they're shoddy, white mind-control devices, shipped out to the masses with teeny toshiba notebook HD's.

mp3 player < media player =! PDA



There is a reason why iPods are popular, though: they are durable, quite cheap and intuitive to use. Of all small MP3 players I have tried I am still most fond of iPod Mini.

The eventual backlash against iPod is funny, though: even though it's a manifest against the entire iPod style (where iPod is more a status symbol and less a portable music source), it sometimes forgets that there are reasons why iPods are popular. Of course, popularity breeds popularity, but still iPods are one of the best mp3s there are. Too bad they don't support OGG or FLAC though :(
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Offline Nix

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I still feel as if everyone's arguing over semantics here...  iPods ARE popular, theres no denying it.

I bet none of this flak would have been fired off if I used "creative zen xtra" instead of "iPod".  Yes I know a PDA is NOT an mp3 player, but most people today STILL think that a pda is a fancy  pocket  calendar/organizer.  In Fact, I remember WM replying to something I mentioned about my pda playing back movies, something to the effect of "that changes my opinion on pda's being fancy pocket calendars".  All I was trying to do is explain how many different uses there are for pda's, with emphasis on being able to load most any audio format onto the pda, without DRM, NOT to say that its an iPod.  I've owned three different kinds of pda in my life, I think I know what they're capable of.

  • An Audio/Video Playback device (MP3/OGG/AAC/WAV/MIDI/AVI/MPEG/DIVX)
  • Web Browser Instant Messaging client/RSS reader
  • Remote Desktop Client
  • Calendar/Datebook/Address book
  • Able to edit MS Word and Excel files
  • Emulator platform for NES/SNES consoles
  • E-Book reader/PDF Viewer
  • Notepad replacement (Digital ink)

And many more that I havent mentioned, but these are the most common "modes of use" I put my pda through.

 

Offline ZylonBane

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Yes I know a PDA is NOT an mp3 player
Nobody is claiming you said that. What got my knickers in a twist was your use of "iPod" as a synonym for "MP3 player". This is the sort of usage practiced by people who think that Apple invented the idea of a portable MP3 player (if they even know what an "MP3" is).
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