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Offline NeoHunter

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FreeSpace 2 and Windows ME.....
I got this urge to install either Windows Millenium Edition or Windows 2000. However, I want to know if either one fo these can support FreeSpace 2???

I'm tired of the Windows 98 First Edition crashing on me or displaying that annoying "Illegal operation"message.

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Offline Nico

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FreeSpace 2 and Windows ME.....
trash 2k, FS2 often doesn't work on this one (not for everybody, but often).
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FreeSpace 2 and Windows ME.....
ME works great..
and If youre using something like a Voodoo or a TNT2 chip, it will definitely work under 2K...

 

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FreeSpace 2 and Windows ME.....
You can always dual-boot and try both out.  
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Offline NeoHunter

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Thanks guys!!!

Thorn, if what you are saying is true, then it should work if I install Windows 2000. I have a Gigabyte GA-660Plus NVdia TNT2 card. So, as long as I see that word "TNT2", it should work, right?

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Offline Vertigo1

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Originally posted by venom2506:
trash 2k, FS2 often doesn't work on this one (not for everybody, but often).

Freespace2 works perfectly with Win2k.  If you have problems, it is a DRIVER issue.  Hell, even FS1 supports WinNT.  Its a well known fact that FS2 uses FS1's engine (stated by DaveB himself), just with better textures and a few tweaks to allow beams and such.  Win2k is based on the NT kernel.  Need I say more?

In summary, if your drivers are installed properly then Freespace and Freespace2 will run flawlessly in Windows 2000.



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Offline NeoHunter

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I see. Okay,. Then I shall go ahead with the installation of Windows 2000 then.

But they did say that some modems are not supported by Windows 2000.

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NO!!! STOP!!!
 WINDOWS 2000 IS A GAMER'S DEATH TRAP!!!!!
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Offline Nico

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Originally posted by MD-2389:
Freespace2 works perfectly with Win2k.  If you have problems, it is a DRIVER issue.  Hell, even FS1 supports WinNT.  Its a well known fact that FS2 uses FS1's engine (stated by DaveB himself), just with better textures and a few tweaks to allow beams and such.  Win2k is based on the NT kernel.  Need I say more?

In summary, if your drivers are installed properly then Freespace and Freespace2 will run flawlessly in Windows 2000.



I don't care, I don't use 2k  




[This message has been edited by venom2506 (edited 10-21-2001).]
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Offline Pez

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I use Win2k and I haven't had any problems with Freespace. But some games (mostly games from EA) don't work well under Win2k. But thats ok, I haven't had a blue screen of death in long, long time.

Good site for Win2k users: http://www.ntcompatible.com/

Pez

 

Offline Setekh

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2k is great for the stability. And it also has great RAM support. That said, I really want to get a proper version of XP...  
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FreeSpace 2 and Windows ME.....
2K is very protective of how it allows programs to acces the computer's hardware. This is inherited from the NT line of OS'es, and is also the main factor in Win2K's wonderful stability.

However, it does cause intensive multimedia operations to run significantly slower than on 98. I'm not talking about peanuts like playing CD's and MP3's, I'm talking about DVD's (sometimes) and 3d applications (games).

But what was said before is correct: with the right drivers, Win2K runs like a dream. Most games work fine, some even better than they did under 98. FS2 works fine, it just switches between screens a bit slower.

However, I must warn you away from ME - it's a piece of crap. I don't say that lightly, either. There have been numerous cases where it runs ok, but that has been the exception to the rule. It is a horridly made OS, with a pathetic attempt at covering up the stability issues with duct tape as opposed to removing them from the equation (System Restore adds more bugs and crashes than it supposedly fixes).

I am a computer technician, and one of the first question I ask a customer who comes to me with a problem is if they are running Windows ME. If they are, I recommend (if they can't afford Windows 2000, or their computer isn't able to run it) that they install 98 instead.

Personally, I dual-boot Win98 and W2K. All my work is in 2K, and I use 98 for graphicly heavy gaming (read: IWAR2, etc...)  

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Offline NeoHunter

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Hwo do you dual boot two operating systems on a single hard disk drive anyway?

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On a single HD you should partition the disk into 2 drive letters, and install 98 (for example) on one of them. Then under 98 run the 2k install proggie and when it asks you f you want to upgrade, say no, and choose to select the target install partition during installation. Install it onto your other drive, and when you boot the computer, Win2k will provide you with a menu to allow you to boot into either OS.

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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline Vertigo1

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Originally posted by sandwich:
2K is very protective of how it allows programs to acces the computer's hardware. This is inherited from the NT line of OS'es, and is also the main factor in Win2K's wonderful stability.

However, it does cause intensive multimedia operations to run significantly slower than on 98. I'm not talking about peanuts like playing CD's and MP3's, I'm talking about DVD's (sometimes) and 3d applications (games).

But what was said before is correct: with the right drivers, Win2K runs like a dream. Most games work fine, some even better than they did under 98. FS2 works fine, it just switches between screens a bit slower.

However, I must warn you away from ME - it's a piece of crap. I don't say that lightly, either. There have been numerous cases where it runs ok, but that has been the exception to the rule. It is a horridly made OS, with a pathetic attempt at covering up the stability issues with duct tape as opposed to removing them from the equation (System Restore adds more bugs and crashes than it supposedly fixes).

I am a computer technician, and one of the first question I ask a customer who comes to me with a problem is if they are running Windows ME. If they are, I recommend (if they can't afford Windows 2000, or their computer isn't able to run it) that they install 98 instead.

Personally, I dual-boot Win98 and W2K. All my work is in 2K, and I use 98 for graphicly heavy gaming (read: IWAR2, etc...)  


I agree with you on everything except for the slowness part.  I haven't noticed any slowdowns in any games.  Maybe my processor makes up for the "slack".  

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Offline NeoHunter

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Originally posted by sandwich:
On a single HD you should partition the disk into 2 drive letters, and install 98 (for example) on one of them. Then under 98 run the 2k install proggie and when it asks you f you want to upgrade, say no, and choose to select the target install partition during installation. Install it onto your other drive, and when you boot the computer, Win2k will provide you with a menu to allow you to boot into either OS.

How does one partition a hard disk drive?? I forgot the commands.


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Offline Setekh

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I use my Linux install disk, but I'm fairly sure DOS FDisk does partitions - open it up and follow the prompts  
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Offline NeoHunter

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I just hope I don't do the wrong thing.  

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Offline Vertigo1

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Originally posted by NeoHunter:
I just hope I don't do the wrong thing.  


You would have to be a blithering idiot not to know how to use FDisk.  Its VERY straight forward.

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FreeSpace 2 and Windows ME.....
ME has no problem with it, I don't know about 2k. I'd recommend ME, since 2k builds off of NT, and ME off of 98.

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