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Offline Deepblue

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Respectful, chilling, and powerful. No recognizable actors, and many people play themselves making the events and the reactions thereof completely real and shocking.

 

Offline Ford Prefect

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I think, even if I wanted to waste ten dollars on seeing this movie, I wouldn't be able to because I would be seeing it with my friends, and one of us would end up laughing and then we'd all be laughing and then, well... then we would be in a bad situation.
"Mais est-ce qu'il ne vient jamais à l'idée de ces gens-là que je peux être 'artificiel' par nature?"  --Maurice Ravel

 

Offline Deepblue

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If you laugh during these movie I suggest you go to an insane asylum. Quite literally, you relive the events of 9/11 as they unfold from the perspective of the air traffic controllers and the passengers of Flight 93. There are no heroic speeches, no character development, you know as much about everybody as you would if you had boarded the flight with them. If you don't want to relive that day, you do not want to see this movie.

 

Offline Nix

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One question, are the terrorists properly portrayed?
For example, are the terrorists dumbfounded right as everyone's going to crash, having an "oh my god" moment, or are they all chanting to Allah and cheering and happy that they got to kill some innocent people?

  

Offline Ford Prefect

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See, the more serious it is, the lower the critical mass for laughter. It starts as just some idle remark that causes little more than a silent snort, but that's all it takes to open the door to the Id's dungeon and say, "Come on out!" And it does. Idle observations become inappropriate quips, which become elaborate jokes, and before you know it, we're convulsing violently to prevent the laughter from escaping. But probablilty dictates that before that movie is over, containment will fail.
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Offline Deepblue

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See, the more serious it is, the lower the critical mass for laughter. It starts as just some idle remark that causes little more than a silent snort, but that's all it takes to open the door to the Id's dungeon and say, "Come on out!" And it does. Idle observations become inappropriate quips, which become elaborate jokes, and before you know it, we're convulsing violently to prevent the laughter from escaping. But probablilty dictates that before that movie is over, containment will fail.

It's a very unfunny movie. No irony, no innuendo. Just terror, hope, and courage.

@Nix. Yes.

 

Offline Ford Prefect

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It's a very unfunny movie. No irony, no innuendo. Just terror, hope, and courage.

Precisely. That's the point.
"Mais est-ce qu'il ne vient jamais à l'idée de ces gens-là que je peux être 'artificiel' par nature?"  --Maurice Ravel

 

Offline Rictor

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First of all, dramatizing the events cheapens the events themselves. Secondly, it's already pretty apparent what this movie is going to be like, namely a star-spangled cliche. Hollywood has habit of making the same movie again and again but with a different superficial covering each time. Not to sound cynical, but what I expect is Million Dollar Baby plus plane plus terrorists.

 

Offline Ford Prefect

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First of all, dramatizing the events cheapens the events themselves.

Unless you do it like Fargo. That was awesome.
"Mais est-ce qu'il ne vient jamais à l'idée de ces gens-là que je peux être 'artificiel' par nature?"  --Maurice Ravel

 

Offline BlackDove

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Not to sound cynical, but what I expect is Million Dollar Baby plus plane plus terrorists.

Now if they could mix in some Snakes.....

 

Offline Mefustae

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Now if they could mix in some Snakes.....

Why won't that joke just f***ing die already!!

Regarding the movie, how many 'roll-your-eyes pandering to the overly patriotic' scenes are there?
« Last Edit: April 29, 2006, 08:21:38 pm by Mefustae »

 

Offline Ford Prefect

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I'm gonna guess that you can probably figure that out by counting the number of scenes in the movie.
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Offline aldo_14

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It's a very unfunny movie. No irony, no innuendo. Just terror, hope, and courage.

Sounds like watching a funeral.

I'm gonna guess that you can probably figure that out by counting the number of scenes in the movie.

"Honey, now we're up off the ground, I'm just going to nip to the loo.... for America"
"Ok, don't forget to wash your hands......for America"
"God bless this country, with our impeccable hygiene and airline toilets"
"Yes, god bless"
"oh, look, an Arab.  How lucky he must feel, to be..... in America."

 

Offline Martinus

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"Honey, now we're up off the ground, I'm just going to nip to the loo.... for America"
"Ok, don't forget to wash your hands......for America"
"God bless this country, with our impeccable hygiene and airline toilets"
"Yes, god bless"
"oh, look, an Arab.  How lucky he must feel, to be..... in America."
Ah so you saw it then.

 

Offline an0n

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Not to sound cynical, but what I expect is Million Dollar Baby plus plane plus terrorists.

Don't be so ****ing stupid.

The Saudi's only had knives. She'd've boxed the **** outta them.
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Offline Deepblue

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All of you are a bunch of idiotic cynics. The movie DOESN'T FRACKING HAVE "PATRIOTIC" MOMENTS. THERE ARE NO SPEECHES. IT IS NOT STAR-STUDDED. MANY OF THE PEOPLE PLAY THEMSELVES. It is a record of, as accurately as possible, the events on United 93 as well as the air-traffic control center.

THERE IS NO BLOODY DRAMA. It's raw and unflinching, and it IS reliving the events of 9-11. It does not cheapen, unless you thought the events themselves were "cheap."

Bloody hell. :rolleyes:

If this wasn't the internet, I would slap all of you.

 

Offline Martinus

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All of you are a bunch of idiotic cynics. The movie DOESN'T FRACKING HAVE "PATRIOTIC" MOMENTS. THERE ARE NO SPEECHES. IT IS NOT STAR-STUDDED. MANY OF THE PEOPLE PLAY THEMSELVES. It is a record of, as accurately as possible, the events on United 93 as well as the air-traffic control center.

THERE IS NO BLOODY DRAMA. It's raw and unflinching, and it IS reliving the events of 9-11. It does not cheapen, unless you thought the events themselves were "cheap."

Bloody hell. :rolleyes:

If this wasn't the internet, I would slap all of you.
And you would promptly get the **** kicked out of you by a large group of people who do understand what the term 'satire' means.

 

Offline Ford Prefect

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In all seriousness, I can believe that, but I just find the entire concept stupid. It's not even that it's about 9/11 in particular. I just find this whole genre of "re-living the event" films to be somewhat silly. What is anyone getting out of this? I suppose it just had to be made in the interest of general catharsis.

I think the really priceless one is going to be the other 9/11 film that's coming out. I have a feeling that's going to be rated PG for Patriotic Garbage.
"Mais est-ce qu'il ne vient jamais à l'idée de ces gens-là que je peux être 'artificiel' par nature?"  --Maurice Ravel

 

Offline Kamikaze

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What a horrible excuse for a movie. The movie industry's taking money for stabbing the scabs that've formed over this whole 9/11 mess and watching them bleed. Can't we just move the **** on?
Science alone of all the subjects contains within itself the lesson of the danger of belief in the infallibility of the greatest teachers in the preceding generation . . .Learn from science that you must doubt the experts. As a matter of fact, I can also define science another way: Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - Richard Feynman