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Offline aldo_14

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our domestic league runs april->november so if i waited until after ours was over the world cup would be long over

Yeah, but you're just weird.  Proper countries run till June.

Except the cold ones.
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gets too cold here in the winter, and we have armored wankball to compete with in that season
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BTW, what do you people think Angola's chances are?
Most people here are seeing them as a dark horse.

Well the Angolans I've talked to are basically saying that they don't care if they go home after the first round. Getting to the World Cup is achievement enough for them. They didn't do that well in the Africa Cup a few months ago so I'm not particularly getting my hopes up for them

Gotta love the irony of them playing Portugal though :)
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BTW, what do you people think Angola's chances are?
Most people here are seeing them as a dark horse.

Well the Angolans I've talked to are basically saying that they don't care if they go home after the first round. Getting to the World Cup is achievement enough for them. They didn't do that well in the Africa Cup a few months ago so I'm not particularly getting my hopes up for them

Gotta love the irony of them playing Portugal though :)

Especially given that IIRC both have poached players from the other (I think Pedro Emanuel is now playing for Angola, but not any Angolans for Portugal at the mo- also I think Angola asked Mourinho to be an ambassador-type during the world cup).  Togo had a bloody awful African Nations, too.  Ghana are probably due a decent World Cup run; they've had a pretty good history at U-21 level, yet never translated it to full international success.  Ivory Coast are the strongest of the African teams, IMO.  Think it's a shame there's no Eto'o at the world cup, though.

 

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Tonight it starts.  Walkover for Germany I reckon.
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I can't wait for the red-hot excitement of Poland vs Ecuador..........

 

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I can't wait for the red-hot excitement of Poland vs Ecuador..........
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why is it people presume that we're putting our best team in the field on a friendly?  :wtf:


So, maybe that counts for the other teams as well...?

 

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Wasn't as easy for the Germans as I thought.  Still, they had picked Lehmann and Ballack was injured; Costa Rica impressed me upfront, but the defence was shocking.

The ball is...different than most, swings through the air, going to be a nightmare for the keepers.
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Offline aldo_14

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Hmm.

I really hate the english commentators, though.  It seemed every second comment was mentioning whether or not Germany could beat England, slagging off the German defense (not entirely unjustified, to be fair), or blaming the inadequacies of Costa Rica (especially with regards to Lahm).  That, and I can't stand this 'the German Theo Walcott' type pish we'll no doubt be hearing for every single game featuring a young striker.

Plus side; good match, little slow paced, Germany look like being a good team if they can sort out the defense. (and who'd have thought anyone would be saying that last sentence?)

 

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*looks left and right*  :nervous:

F*** FOOTBALL!!!!!

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*looks left and right*  :nervous:

F*** FOOTBALL!!!!!

*runs away*

Tsch.  and you have Prso in your team and everything.

 

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Anyone know what the **** Sven thought he was doing taking his striker off when we're 1-0 ahead with 40 odd minutes of the game left?
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Indeed, that seemed a bit odd at the time. But to be honest, if he hadn't done it Paraguay probably would have scored (well, scored again, strictly speaking) an equalizer, what with the English defense being in tatters for much of the second half and all. They definitely did not look like a team that can get anywhere near the title unless a lot of things get fixed very fast.

First of all, they need to come up with a better attack plan that "Lob ball at the really tall bloke up front and pray", second, the midfield needs to work out some kind of cooperation scheme with the offense and themselves where they can actually pass the ball forwards or sideways instead of exclusively passing it back or trying a solo run every time they recieve it. And third, the defense needs to actually attack the guy with the ball instead of just standing around looking dumb until he gets within striking distance.

[Edit] PS, not that it affected the result, but was that ref really as poor as I thought or was I just dreaming? Oh, and no offense to the 'tall bloke' (Crouch, right?) they kept lobbing balls at, he was one of the few who did a really good job on the English team. It's just not gonna work if that's all they do.
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Let me just say that, though I hope otherwise, I forsee a massacre against the Netherlands tommorow. Playing without Vidic sure as hell doesn't help the situation.

 

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Indeed, that seemed a bit odd at the time. But to be honest, if he hadn't done it Paraguay probably would have scored (well, scored again, strictly speaking) an equalizer, what with the English defense being in tatters for much of the second half and all. They definitely did not look like a team that can get anywhere near the title unless a lot of things get fixed very fast.


England started a bit badly but they went downhill very fast the second Owen came off. Their entire style changed from attacking (Which England do very well) to defending deeply (Which we can do against middling teams but which will cost us against the really top class teams).

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First of all, they need to come up with a better attack plan that "Lob ball at the really tall bloke up front and pray"


I've been saying that for nearly 10 years. It's a crappy tactic and while it work against poor teams the second you give away the ball like that against a good team like Brazil you won't see it again for the next 5 minutes.

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[Edit] PS, not that it affected the result, but was that ref really as poor as I thought or was I just dreaming? Oh, and no offense to the 'tall bloke' (Crouch, right?) they kept lobbing balls at, he was one of the few who did a really good job on the English team. It's just not gonna work if that's all they do.

Crouch did pretty well but he had absolutely no support once Owen came off. The amount of times England lost the ball because they kicked it at Crouch and he had no one to head it on to was ridiculous.

Notice how in the first half England dominated because that wasn't their tactic.
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I actually didn't think Owen made much of a difference while he was playing. He's gifted when he's "on" for a match, but he didn't seem to be today. That unknown guy who came in near the end showed commendable spirit though, much more than many of the 'regulars' had done over most of the match. What was lacking up front was simply will - Noone bothered to press forward for most of the second half, and when that's the case it really doesn't matter what strikers are on the field.

As for Owen, perhaps the English play was just too slow for his style today... it seemed that following every pass, the recipient had to take 10 seconds just looking around and toeing the ball a bit before actually doing something with it. No first time passes, no fast combinations. In fact, I only saw those things twice in the second half, and both resulted in Paraguay getting into real trouble, though ultimately nothing came of it.

The final 10 minutes or so were a bit better, at least, so there is potential. But more is needed when facing an opponent who doesn't score your goals for you.
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I thought England were pretty poor throughout, but Paraguay were simply awful in the first half and incredibly short on confidence.  There were a number of times when they'd break upfield, and there was no width whatsoever, especially on the left.  England did create a few decent chances, but at the same time the Paraguay keeper made, what, 1 good save?

Certainly nothing to justify the hype, IMO.

 

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I don't know about poor throughout. I did see some good play from them. I also saw them giving the ball away foolishly even in the first half though.
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I feel bad for Sweden. And says a fair bit, coming from a Dane. Never have I seen a game so dominated by one team without them actually winning.
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