[Polpolion]

If you play it almost any sport isn't boring. Even perhaps golf.   

[Nuclear1]

I'm American.






...baseball is really, really boring.

second

Third.

...unless you're nuts like me over the Cubs...

[NGTM-1R]

Baseball is a very stylized sport...much like US football. There are long breaks in it. I prefer faster-moving and more freeform sports.

[Solatar]

I tried baseball I'll admit, and I guess I didn't mind it TOO much. It was the people who played it that I never liked. Bastardly jockish type people that I've had experience with sucked all the fun out of the game.

Just like soccer (footy or whatever). I got shoved in some kiddy league when I was a kid, hated it. When I was forced to play it in Physical Education (a class I managed to have with mostly a class of friends) it was a blast. So it kinda depends on who's playing sometimes.

[Taristin]

What does any of this have to do with an f-14 versus an amazon?

Why should this thread stay open?

[NGTM-1R]

Because it hasn't done anything lockworthy yet. HLP's never locked for offtopicness before.

[tobiwan81]

Space faring F-14s thru Baseball to Trans-atlantic relations.

This is a interesting BBS!


For the record I have to agree that both baseball and American Football (and Nascar) are like all American sports too stylized and too stilted and too tactical.
It's more about tactics and logistics than actually doing anything. (unlike Rugby)

[Mongoose]

And I happen to think that rugby/futbol involve far too much running around and random tackling and not nearly enough tactics.

So...anyway...no way an Amazon could take a Tomcat...

[tobiwan81]

Like a bar brawl on a field! You should try it! Fun!

[aldo_14]

And I happen to think that rugby/futbol involve far too much running around and random tackling and not nearly enough tactics.

Ah, not played football properly, then?  Poor lad.

[karajorma]

What does any of this have to do with an f-14 versus an amazon?

Well considering that this topic only even exists as a split and move from the SCP forum maybe it's time to pass the cancer on to Hard Light

[TrashMan]

The said thing is, that allough the F-14 is one of the best planes ever built, it's fate was sealed by politics.....

chekc the wikipedia about it and you'll see why the F-14 molds were destroyed.

[Taristin]

What does any of this have to do with an f-14 versus an amazon?

Well considering that this topic only even exists as a split and move from the SCP forum maybe it's time to pass the cancer on to Hard Light

Might Just do that, with a rename.

[[DW]-Hunter]

I'm American.

...baseball is really, really boring.

play the damn game and you'll see that it isn't boring.

its boring, just accept it.

[Unknown Target]

The said thing is, that allough the F-14 is one of the best planes ever built, it's fate was sealed by politics.....

chekc the wikipedia about it and you'll see why the F-14 molds were destroyed.

The F-14 was not destroyed by politics, it was destroyed by cost. It took too much money for too little gain to maintain the aircraft, which was designed to fight an enemy that doesn't exist any more. Virtually every part was constantly being replaced, and compared to the new F/A-18Es which are rolling off the line, it was very, very, very cost innefective.

However, the reason that the F-14 parts can't be released IS political, and has to do with the Iran incident. If Iran ever got a hold of the spare parts, it could reverse-engineer them and restore their F-14s to flying condition. Which would be bad.

Space faring F-14s thru Baseball to Trans-atlantic relations.

This is a interesting BBS!


For the record I have to agree that both baseball and American Football (and Nascar) are like all American sports too stylized and too stilted and too tactical.
It's more about tactics and logistics than actually doing anything. (unlike Rugby)

So are you saying it's better to be stupid and just run straight without any tactics? Tactics = brainpower!


But yea, for baseball to be understanding, you have to either play it or understand it. At least we're not fah-rea-king insane like all you Europeans about soccer! Mass riots? International wars? Jesus, and people make fun of Red Sox fans

[aldo_14]

So are you saying it's better to be stupid and just run straight without any tactics? Tactics = brainpower!

Running would be a nice start.  American football is, in particular, bizarre for me because it tears the good bits of rugby to pieces and replaces them with ad breaks.  Celebrating after a tackle?  What on earth is that about?*

But yea, for baseball to be understanding, you have to either play it or understand it. At least we're not fah-rea-king insane like all you Europeans about soccer! Mass riots? International wars? Jesus, and people make fun of Red Sox fans

Firstly, US sports have arguably a worse record on hooliganism than football does in Europe (http://football.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9753,1660884,00.html).  Although at least footie is exciting enough for people to care.  I have played rounders and baseball before, the latter courtesy of a merkin friend at school; it's just a dull sport.

(NB: the 'soccer war' was in Central America, firstly, and took place in the background of the Honduran government evicting thousands of Salvadoran legal-and-illegal immigrants from arable land in response to agitation for land from the Honduran peasantry.  Whilst the qualifiers may have been a spark for violence, there is no doubt the governments of both countries cynically manipulated them for political purposes)

*I'm aware of the complete and utter pointlessness of arguing about this sort of thing - but, admit it, it's fun!

[Herra Tohtori]

This is one of the weirdest threads I've ever seen on any forum. Not the weirdest one, but I'd say it goes in top 10.

Okay, my 0,20 monetary units come here:

What Makes Baseball, Basketball, Volleyball and games like these boring: High learning curve. It's not easy to play these well, and if you don't know how to play well - OR you're in very good company that doesn't care about the results - it's just plain boring to play these games.

On baseball you have to be able to both hit the ball and catch it, both of which take time to learn. And while playing these games, most players are just idling and waiting their turn to hit, or if they are on the field they're idling and waiting for the ball to come to their approximate location. I've played Finnish baseball in school and it is just plain boring when the players are mostly not playing it as a hobby... and watching baseball is even more dull. Basketball would be slightly more interesting to watch, but it happens to be a small sports here so I couldn't really give a damn of the results so it becomes just as dull as baseball. And it's boring to play if you don't practice it and become good at it. Same applies to volleyball.

On the other hand, a sport like football is very easy in basic principles and it's a lot easier to enjoy just playing the game even if you're not pro. So, football is nice to play I'd say... but most of the time it's quite dull to watch if you have no affiliation with teams.

Ice hockey and ice ball and such are also nice to play while youve learned skating. Plus it's quite more fun to watch than football... though that depends also a great deal of many things, of course. Bad hockey game can be worse to watch than a mediocre football game.

American football I know nothing about. Though it definitely doesn't seem as much fun to play with random people like, in school lessons.

[Ghostavo]

Chess > Any sport

Live with it.

[Polpolion]

And I happen to think that rugby/futbol involve far too much running around and random tackling and not nearly enough tactics.

WhAt??? Have you ever played on an organized team? Don't say that until you have. Trust me

[aldo_14]

This is one of the weirdest threads I've ever seen on any forum. Not the weirdest one, but I'd say it goes in top 10.

Okay, my 0,20 monetary units come here:

What Makes Baseball, Basketball, Volleyball and games like these boring: High learning curve. It's not easy to play these well, and if you don't know how to play well - OR you're in very good company that doesn't care about the results - it's just plain boring to play these games.

On baseball you have to be able to both hit the ball and catch it, both of which take time to learn. And while playing these games, most players are just idling and waiting their turn to hit, or if they are on the field they're idling and waiting for the ball to come to their approximate location. I've played Finnish baseball in school and it is just plain boring when the players are mostly not playing it as a hobby... and watching baseball is even more dull. Basketball would be slightly more interesting to watch, but it happens to be a small sports here so I couldn't really give a damn of the results so it becomes just as dull as baseball. And it's boring to play if you don't practice it and become good at it. Same applies to volleyball.

On the other hand, a sport like football is very easy in basic principles and it's a lot easier to enjoy just playing the game even if you're not pro. So, football is nice to play I'd say... but most of the time it's quite dull to watch if you have no affiliation with teams.

Ice hockey and ice ball and such are also nice to play while youve learned skating. Plus it's quite more fun to watch than football... though that depends also a great deal of many things, of course. Bad hockey game can be worse to watch than a mediocre football game.

American football I know nothing about. Though it definitely doesn't seem as much fun to play with random people like, in school lessons.

Very sport has a form of learning curve, but it doesn't affect enjoyment.  Rugby is really hard to play, for example.  So is ice hockey and arguably regular hockey.  I'd say knowledge about the game affects your ability to enjoy watching it, i.e. knowing when a team is breaking into a good position on the counter-attack at footie or when a tennis player is in a vulnerable position, but actual difficulty of picking it up doesn't.  And of course personal experience and culture kind of affect it too... but I could enjoy formula 1 before I even drove, and I played rugby a fair bit at school yet don't enjoy it that much (although my dad didn't play rugby but goes to most of Scotlands' home games).