[Deepblue]

Is it just me or does the new Turok look like crap?

[Dough with Fish]

Is it just me or does the new Turok look like crap?

Dude, it's frickin Turok. Hasn't been good in yeeeeeeeears. Why they are trying to brin that dinosaur (oooo PUN!) back to life is beyond me. I've heard on some podcasts and read in some blogs that, that game has a ****load of work left.

[Unknown Target]

Is it just me or is every single game with an American protoganist frowned upon in these forums? It's like as soon as it has Americans it's "OMG WTF NO WAI SELF SERVING IMPERIALISTS!"
Did it ever occur to you guys that maybe they make games based on Americans because the developers are Americans?
Now that I've sown that seed of destruction, the game looks pretty, but not partiuclarly entertaining.

[supernova]

Im sure it'll be most entertaining to play (like the other WW2 shooters), but it is doubtful it has anything really new that would be worth raving.

Agreed...raiding normandy was cool the first time...but after a while it's the same old same old...

[Ace]

Is it just me or is every single game with an American protoganist frowned upon in these forums? It's like as soon as it has Americans it's "OMG WTF NO WAI SELF SERVING IMPERIALISTS!"

Nah, we also say that about Night Elves...

[Grey Wolf]

To me, it doesn't look much different to CoD2. Perhaps it's the definition of the video, but it still looks somewhat scripted and not that graphically appealing. And the "Don't worry, we're Americans!" did nothing to improve my opinion.

But don't you know Famous American Arnold Swatzenegger single handedly killed the German army and tore Hitlers' head from his body before raising the Stars n' Stripes over London?

Then get some European developers to develop WW2 games. Until then, shut up.

[Ford Prefect]

Don't tell him to shut up. It's not his fault that history has been rewritten by sodomites to downplay the greatness of freedom.

[Prophet]

Then get some European developers to develop WW2 games. Until then, shut up.

Don't mean to burst your bubble, but they do that allready. They just arent those shooting gallerys like WW2 shooters are. And Russia happens to be the place where some of the greatest war games have been made. And they aren't afraid to do real simulators (a genre that has been neglegted lately), and other games that actuall require the player to use his/hers brains.
Not all notworthy games come from the states.

[aldo_14]

To me, it doesn't look much different to CoD2. Perhaps it's the definition of the video, but it still looks somewhat scripted and not that graphically appealing. And the "Don't worry, we're Americans!" did nothing to improve my opinion.

But don't you know Famous American Arnold Swatzenegger single handedly killed the German army and tore Hitlers' head from his body before raising the Stars n' Stripes over London?

Then get some European developers to develop WW2 games. Until then, shut up.

So it'd be perfectly ok with you if I just ignore the role the Ozzies played in the Pacific campaign and assume all the Anzacs sat on their arse for 6 years?

[Mefustae]

So it'd be perfectly ok with you if I just ignore the role the Ozzies played in the Pacific campaign and assume all the Anzacs sat on their arse for 6 years?

There is a small smigin of truth in that, what with MacArthur sending us Ozzies to ****ty little islands to fight and die in battles that didn't shorten the war by a ****ing day, all because he wanted Americans to take back the Phillippines... ****er...

[aldo_14]

That was what i was thinking of, yeah.

[Janos]

So it'd be perfectly ok with you if I just ignore the role the Ozzies played in the Pacific campaign and assume all the Anzacs sat on their arse for 6 years?

There is a small smigin of truth in that, what with MacArthur sending us Ozzies to ****ty little islands to fight and die in battles that didn't shorten the war by a ****ing day, all because he wanted Americans to take back the Phillippines... ****er...

Well, seeing how the entire Pacific campaign was more or less Americans wanting to regain Philippines - their territory after all - and rest of the entire war being island-hopping from one ****ty little island to another, I'd say Ozzies were quite important. Australians were also key factor in New Guinea campaign, which was pretty damn important to entire Southern Pacific war.

[Janos]

Is it just me or is every single game with an American protoganist frowned upon in these forums? It's like as soon as it has Americans it's "OMG WTF NO WAI SELF SERVING IMPERIALISTS!"
Did it ever occur to you guys that maybe they make games based on Americans because the developers are Americans?
Now that I've sown that seed of destruction, the game looks pretty, but not partiuclarly entertaining.

One of the reasons for the backlash against American WW2 shooters is that they are stuck into repeating the same cycle over and over again. Normandy? Check. Parts of Market Garden? Check. Battle of the Bulge? Check. Maybe Monte Cassino? Check - and that's about it. Multiply it with 12984. If you want some extra flavour, you could always throw Africa into the mix.

For Europeans it's also quite funny how the Eastern Front is so invisible, save for Stalingrad. Of course the entire Eastern Front is much more K18-material than Western Europe operations and it's quite hard to find a suitable protagonists when both sides are ****ed up and kill innocents by thousands.

[Mefustae]

For Europeans it's also quite funny how the Eastern Front is so invisible, save for Stalingrad. Of course the entire Eastern Front is much more K18-material than Western Europe operations and it's quite hard to find a suitable protagonists when both sides are ****ed up and kill innocents by thousands.

Quite true, it'd be interesting to see an attempt at accurately creating a game following Soviet soldier in one of the rear positions in the invasion of Berlin: Your mission; locate at least five (5) German women within the ruins of the city (marked by stars on your HUD mini-map), rape them, shoot them, and rape them again*. After this has been completed, report back to your commanding officer and get drunk on anti-freeze.

*...Damn, that was in rather poor taste, considering i've taken the time to paruse material gathered from diaries and journals kept by German women at the time... that s***'ll mess you up. 

[Unknown Target]

So it'd be perfectly ok with you if I just ignore the role the Ozzies played in the Pacific campaign and assume all the Anzacs sat on their arse for 6 years?

There is a small smigin of truth in that, what with MacArthur sending us Ozzies to ****ty little islands to fight and die in battles that didn't shorten the war by a ****ing day, all because he wanted Americans to take back the Phillippines... ****er...

Well, seeing how the entire Pacific campaign was more or less Americans wanting to regain Philippines - their territory after all - and rest of the entire war being island-hopping from one ****ty little island to another, I'd say Ozzies were quite important. Australians were also key factor in New Guinea campaign, which was pretty damn important to entire Southern Pacific war.

Ignorance can be fun kids!
The Pacific War was not a campaign to just take back the Phillipines.

[aldo_14]

It was definately one of McArthurs driving ambitions, though; he fought the Joint Chiefs' to recapture the whole of the Phillipines rather than just the south.

[Unknown Target]

It was definately one of McArthurs driving ambitions, though; he fought the Joint Chiefs' to recapture the whole of the Phillipines rather than just the south.

Fine, that was McArthur's ambition, but saying that the entire Pacific War was just so that the US could recapture the Phillipines just smacks of ignorance and stupidity.

[Ford Prefect]

Aldo, I don't know if you Europeans know this, but if America hadn't taken the Phillipines, you would all be speaking German now.

[aldo_14]

Aldo, I don't know if you Europeans know this, but if America hadn't taken the Phillipines, you would all be speaking German now.

Jah, meinwhol!  American uber alles!

[Fragrag]

Aldo, I don't know if you Europeans know this, but if America hadn't taken the Phillipines, you would all be speaking German now.

Jah, meinwhol!  American uber alles!

I'd expect we would be talking Japanese, not German. Am I missing something here?