[Colonol Dekker]

Colonol Dekker, it is the schools responsibility/right to do whatever they can on their grounds, but on the internet it's a whole different story.

They own the PCs, and regulate access to their equipment. nuff said

[Ghostavo]

Colonol Dekker, it is the schools responsibility/right to do whatever they can on their grounds, but on the internet it's a whole different story.

They own the PCs, and regulate access to their equipment. nuff said

And since when is HIS computer at HIS home their grounds?

[Wobble73]

Technically it would Libelous, not slanderous. Slander is verbal, Libel is written.

[Colonol Dekker]

Who said he posted from home? on the same side who said he didn't. But you can apply that to the school as well....
 btw read below,

I got the impression that he was posting this stuff from within the school?

Same here.  

[Ghostavo]

Who said he posted from home? on the same side who said he didn't. But you can apply that to the school as well....
 btw read below,

I got the impression that he was posting this stuff from within the school?

Same here.  

The school is making a complain about his Website not him posting at school and the school has access blocked to those blogs sites... 1+1=??

Furthermore

Meanwhile a spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union said school districts must be careful not to discipline students on matters that occur outside school.

[Colonol Dekker]

I stand corrected, "shrugs-carries on working"

[Kosh]

Maybe things inside of the school really are bad. I mean American High Schools DO suck.....

[Mefustae]

Who the smeg ate my post?!

But again, you don't know if it was slander. Here you are assuming he is guilty until proven innocent.

But he is guilty. Whatever he did, it warranted the attention of the School District, and he's paying for ignoring their requests. We don't know the details to say how guilty he is, but it's pretty damn safe to say that he is indeed guilty as hell.

Curiously, how did the school find out about his letter?

It was made on a public blog site, so chances are someone happened across it an alerted the school to it, or possibly a member of the school-staff frequents the blog-site. Does it really matter how they came across it? I mean, it's not like they're going to bug his internet line.

[Colonol Dekker]

If the "yoot" in question uses the Xango/Blog thing at home, chances are the fool used it at school, admin checked history/monitored sites accessed, and found the post itself.

But thats besides the point, as you say Mefustae the core dilema is the school asked for this nutbar to desist and he did not.

[Fineus]

I'm beginning to get a whole "mountains out of mole-hills" feel about this. It smacks of an angsty teen posting some self-absorbed tripe on the internet, getting called on it and then flailing their hands around shouting and crying about it.

[Mefustae]

Agreed.

[Colonol Dekker]

Aye! any Nays?

[vyper]

Frankly, I'm not surprised by any of this - it's the typical reaction of academic institutions to criticism, especially about bullying. They're terrified the status quo will be broken, they'll be forced to act and the lives of their staff complicated ten-fold, and thus result in something far worse than having your students bullied: eployer-employee tensions.

Put simply, this is the typical cowards way out for the institution.

[Polpolion]

In today's Liturature lesson, you will write a 30 page essay on why this school is good, but your still stupid.

The liturature teacher.

Maybe things inside of the school really are bad. I mean American High Schools DO suck.....

Most of them at least. There are a few rays of hope, such as P-CEP, and the private high-schools. And the ones in Texas are O.K. too, I suppose. Man, I wish people/companies like Nike, Apple, Congress, ETC didn't screw America up so much. There would be a fair amount less of 'American <whatever> Sucks' type posts.

[achtung]

The kid wants some attention.... nuff said.

[redsniper]

Maybe things inside of the school really are bad. I mean American High Schools DO suck.....

Most of them at least. There are a few rays of hope, such as P-CEP, and the private high-schools. And the ones in Texas are O.K. too...

WAAAAAAAH HAAAAA HAAAA HAAAAAA! HAAA HAAA HAA HAAAA! Hee Hee Hee hoo hoo hoo... hm heh heh heh..... whew.

[Kosh]

And the ones in Texas are O.K. too,

That's the best joke I've heard all week.

[WMCoolmon]

If he was posting from the school's computers, well, his usage is subject to the terms and conditions at the school.

If nhe was posting from outside the school...then there really was no good reason for the school to step in. I imagine that this is going to get very ugly.

[Goober5000]

Some important points:

The kid was posting after school, from his home computer, from an account he created on that same computer.

The message in question was a critical evaluation of the school's bullying, not a threat.  Judge for yourselves (I give him a D for spelling and grammar):

Tuesday, May 02, 2006

   you are bully's.  I feel threatened by you.  if you don't like what you see here then do not come here its that simple. I'm pretty sure when you suspended Sam you brought her to tears,  you are a bully and you make me sick.  there's nothing you can do about us posting about parties we've been to and how much liquor we had or how much pot was smoked, the police need to do a better job, you are not the police.  and how is it that you feel threatened what was said that was so threatening.  I feel threatened by you, I cant even have a public web page with out you bullying me and telling me what has to be removed.  where is this freedom of speech that this government is sworn to uphold?  none of this is posted at school, its all posted from our home computers, and once we step foot into our homes we are not on school property any more.  you are just power hungry, don't you ever think?  did you stop to think that maybe this will make parents angry that you are bullying their children around?  did you ever stop to think that maybe now you really are going to have a threat on your hands now that you have just pissed off kids for voicing their opinions?  did you ever stop to think this will start a community backlash?  The kids at Columbine did what they did because they were bullied.  In my opinion you are the real threat here.  None of us ever put in our xanga's that they were going to kill or bring harm to any one.  we voiced our opinions.  you are the real threat here.  you are depriving us of our right to learn.  now stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

Monday, May 01, 2006

dear plainfield school district 202:

       i know you read this.  and you suck.    suspend me or what ever you would like to do.  but this is my ****in web site and i can put what ever i want on it.  kinda goes with the first amendment.  by suspending kyle again for his xanga you guys are pathetic and totally irrational.  first amendment you ****s.  freedom of speech.  and who the **** are you to say what some one can do from there own personal computer.  one more thing kiss my ass.

edit: this one is for you, and yes i have drank it and yes it was delicious!(come get me)

Slashdot FTW.
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/25/0310255

[Mars]

Perhaps and that was partially the point of my "Buh?" reply. You first said you don't know what was posted and then assumed the worse about him just as I assumed the better about him. Of course this could be resolved by searching for the letter

But it would be safer to assume the worst, because the last time I checked, School Districts weren't Evil conglomerations of supervillians that seek to opress the weak and turn the US into an Authoritarian Regime. Sarcasm aside, the fact that the school took action points to the student doing something considerably bad, and his actions after being told to take whatever it was down - posting slanderous sentiments on a blog-site - only reinforces my position.

Be honest, how many school districts have you been involved with... upper levels I mean. My tally is three, and all of them are as evil and soul sucking as any bank. From what I can see it's some mid-level control freak, who's probably ultra-convervative. If they expell that kid I'm pissed.