[SadisticSid]

Going back to what people were saying about parents smacking their kids, such behaviour may well manifest unusual anomalies in some children. But ruling it out is almost certainly more dangerous; there may be more effective psychological technqiues of controlling one's kids, but for most people they are not an option, either because they don't understand them or don't have the resources to implement them. Between that and the alternative of being passive and doing nothing, which will certainly lead to bad results in later life, there is little choice. I don't buy into the assertion that this creates an association of love and violence much; presumably if it were, a larger proportion of us would be a bunch of [more?] twisted sickos. From that behaviourist point of view, the more obvious link is that the child associates doing objectionable things with pain and so avoids it in future, which is exactly what we want to convey.

[Mars]

Never said they were dangerous. It was just a question i placed for me and for others. Also I have personal experience with such....people if you want  who do stuff to theyr own bodyes. Believe me the problem is not as deep as it look for most of the cases but there are those wo really do have emotional scars and psichological scars very deep.

I agree that there are a lot of people who don't have problems that do it, but "problems" don't have to be enviromental. Maybe somone is losing faith in their religion, and suddenly it seems like life is meaningless, maybe it's the realization that they've been a jerk all their life, maybe it's cause they realized that all of their "freinds" are just assoisiates and that no one really cares, there can be so many things that can hurt a person that no one else sees.

[Nuke]

mental disorders are usualy set in motion very early in life. severly, repeditively abused and molested children tend to grow into the worst cases (bipolar or schizophrenic). even mild such abuse can throw somone into a lesser more managable disorders such as chronic depression, anxiety, or other such disorders. enviromental instibilitys such as fighting or devorced parents, being moved around , being bullied, ect. these usually lead to the forming of a negative identity in teens, which leads to the emo/goth thing. of course peopl in theese 3 levels may commit acts of cutting and such, but because theres more emos than schizos your gonna view that as your average cutter. the living environment on theese 3 levels of mindjobs effects each differently. the most severe can not function in the world at all without years of treatment and even then their chances for a normal life are not good. usually they end up on assistance and seldom hold a job. the ones in the middle can function in sosciety, and unless there suicidal theres no reason to institutionalise them, they usually get stuck on therapy and pills, but can lead a normal but not perfect life. as for the emogoths, well, theres always boot camp.

[WeatherOp]

This is why I am against the anti-smacking law in the UK. Not because I intend to use it, my Dad never hit me, but the option was there, that was usually enough to keep me in line.

Thats basicly the way I was younger, I knew what would happen if I did mis-behave, so I never got many spankings. My bro was a different story tho.

[IceFire]

Remember that everyone (everyone) has one or two mental "disorders" that when diagnosed in larger numbers means your a crazy person.  But one or two is normal. We've all got our weird little behaviours that aren't really "normal" in the unified social convention sense but everyone does something unusual.  One of my less nutty ones involves locking the doors on my car, walking away maybe 10 seconds, turning around because I don't feel comfortable that I've actually locked it, find that it's locked as usual and go away.  It's probably an outrageously funny thing to watch if you've seen me do it more than one time and I know I'm note alone because I've seen lots of people do it...but its almost totally irrational because I already locked it but I don't feel comfortable unless I go back and check it.  In another case...I find some people love to run their hands across walls...kids do it all the time but I'm talking university students and grown adults.  I see it all the time.  Its irrational...no need to run your fingers across every wall that you walk past but they do it if its within reach.

SO...take that into context.  People who do the self inflicted wounds are really no different. They may be quite normally adjusted outwardly but their coping mechanism for strain and stress involves this behavior.  Its irrational like the other ones...much moreso...as it has a damaging component to it but its really quite the same sort of thing. It doesn't make them any more crazy than me with my lock checking or the people who run their hands across the walls (and various other things).  But to go to this level...they have an external stressor...that needs to be dealt with.

[Mars]

Some people do heroin instead, I'd say that's just about as damaging, as a matter of fact, there was an ammusing occurance involving somone dropping a needle in the middle of class, but that's beside the pint

[TrashMan]

I really couldn't give a rats ass what psichologists say. Tehy are utterly overrated nerds and their field consists of lot and lot of tapping in the dark.
Each person is a specific universe and there are very few things you can say in general. Besides, they tend to allways find something wrong with you - to the meverything is a disorder.... Yeah...we don'z have bastards, killers and rapists anymore - tehy are all poor sick people.... meh.

[AlphaOne]

I agree TMan I cant believe some of the stuff some phichologist put out there. I mean if it were up to them criminal mass murderers etc would go into a sanatorium with nurses taking care of them instead of hard years in prison or a death penalty. That is why I am against the fact that most countryes don have the death penalties installed inclueding mi own. I mean there is nothing more frightening to someone then the prospect of death in prison.

And some of the people now in jails in mi country could sure use a death penalty.

[Prophet]

One of my less nutty ones involves locking the doors on my car, walking away maybe 10 seconds, turning around because I don't feel comfortable that I've actually locked it, find that it's locked as usual and go away. 

Thats quite common actually. I have a problem with my house. I sometimes come back from 10 meters away to check I really locked it properly. Now I have learned to spend a minute by the door pulling and kicking the door to make sure it's securely locked so that I can leave in peace without running back to the door. Fortunatley I live in a remote location so no one can see me do it.

[AlphaOne]

i do that too! But then agin i dont care who sees me i dont pay much attention to the neoghbours.

The same goes with the car.

[aldo_14]

One of my less nutty ones involves locking the doors on my car, walking away maybe 10 seconds, turning around because I don't feel comfortable that I've actually locked it, find that it's locked as usual and go away. 

You think that's bad?  I check every door - including the boot - and 5 minutes later still have an urge to go back and check it.

And that's at work, in the middle of nowhere, where to only other building in about a mile is a football stadium (i.e. empty).  And usually next to my car, more or less, is a TVR-sans-roof, so it's neither the easiest nor most tempting target.....

[Flipside]

I have an obsession with making sure my venetian blinds aren't twisted. Even if it's pitch dark outside, all the slats have to go in the same direction....

[Colonol Dekker]

Its just human nature to protect our stuff, and It is the perfect norm for males to treasure a car, i still hoard my mountain biike from when i was 18, and Deny my lil bro (13 yrs old) access to it because i dont want it to end up scratched.  8)

[AlphaOne]

Umm regarding the whole bike stuff...well....I agree the little bastards tend to scratch them and well ript them apart. altough mi bor is 20..does this sound stupid??

[Colonol Dekker]

21-20,........ its still young, Dont worry about it. Kick his ass 

[Grug]

I've listened through all the opinions and stories here.

Lets see... The best way to put it is: You never know the road someone else has traveled down.

I understand it to be human nature to judge people on their own experiences, but this is one of the biggest flaws of society today. A lack of understanding.

I've seen a few sides of the fence of society in my time. The biggest thing I've found is that everyone is so burdened with their own problems, they complain and solve, then move on. They all share the fundamental issue that most of the time they all have very similar problems. They have some similar causes or basic needs.

Try not to ever judge someone else based on a life that hasn't been the same. It is true people need support, help, and assitance. But don't condemn someone who hasn't had that all there life.

[karajorma]

Thats quite common actually. I have a problem with my house. I sometimes come back from 10 meters away to check I really locked it properly. Now I have learned to spend a minute by the door pulling and kicking the door to make sure it's securely locked so that I can leave in peace without running back to the door. Fortunatley I live in a remote location so no one can see me do it.

Not a problem with the house (Doors lock themselves) but when I do it with the car I just open the door and rummage around in the glove compartment before walking away again. Given that I generally have some sort of sweeties in the glove compartment I'm probably rewarding obsessive compulsive behavior actually.

[Fragrag]

I pat and put my hands into my pockets at least once every 10 minutes when I'm outside, checking if I still have my keys, wallets, handphone and my MP3 player (which is really stupid, because I'm usually listening to my MP3 Player) I also feel really uncomfortable whenever I leave the house, for the same reason as Prophet

[Turambar]

i clean glasses before i drink out of them.  i almost threw up once when i forgot and i got to the bottom of the glass and there was stuff there.  havent forgotten since.

[aldo_14]

Really want quirks?  I'm one ****ed up individual right here

I also can't go into a bar/pub/cafe/restaurant/etc and sit anywhere except with my back to a/the wall without feeling slightly uncomfortable.

I never go to sleep without closing my cupboard (walk in type thing) door.

I scratch my nose impulsively every since I saw a picture of Prosinecki doing it in Euro 96 (know, I don't know why....).  Typing this has made it itchy. 

In fact, whenever I'm thinking/working I have a whole range of quirks which basically revolve around messing up my head in some way, usually resulting in my looking like I've been dragged through several hedges and attacked by an errant tornado or angry bald midget just before arriving home.

I also have a twitchy left leg, and constantly am biting off the little nudge of skin at the top of my lip without realising it.  Which is really annoying.

If i'm playing football, I always check the contents of my kitbag at least 3 times; the night before, in the morning before leaving the house, and just after slinging it in the boot.

I post here.