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Re: An Experiment
Reply #120 on: July 20, 2006, 08:51:03 am
Okay, Hades still refuses to work, so I followed your link Har-D.  I've also broken the files in sections, so you'll need all three parts:

http://rapidshare.de/files/26405994/Cruiser01.rar.html
THe pof model for the Fenris.
http://rapidshare.de/files/26406251/Cruiser04.rar.html
The Leviathans model file.
http://rapidshare.de/files/26406863/Maps.rar.html
The maps and everything else.

Now this SHOULD work!
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Offline Harbinger of DOOM

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Re: An Experiment
Reply #121 on: July 20, 2006, 12:41:47 pm
SWEET!!!!! Gonna try it now!

[edit]
IT WORKS!!!!!! HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: An Experiment
Reply #122 on: July 20, 2006, 05:25:13 pm
Quote from: Harbinger of DOOM on July 18, 2006, 09:28:09 am
Strange how no one else is posting about this..... :wtf:
*Is on holiday* :p

Being on the other side of the planet from my FS install (and not being able to download anything from rapidshare - I'd suggest using freewebs or sommat) I can't check, but if I were to guess - I'd say you were using the the original release's textures with a later version's model, or vice-versa.
There were 3 releases in this order:
1) Original multiple largish separate textures version (slowest of the lot)
2) Merged map version (much faster - still had the trim textures separate from the main map though)
3) Optimised version (most recent, and the one currently in the media VPs. It merged all non-nameplate maps into one big map - including all the lod textures)

From the screenies, it looks like you're using the models from either #1 or #2 with the textures of #3.
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Re: An Experiment
Reply #123 on: July 20, 2006, 10:35:41 pm
I'd been using the Merged map version (with MediaVPs 3.6.8! :wtf: )  until Raptor posted a link to the release thread, so now I'm using a slightly modified version of your Fenris/Levy. BTW, Raptor, why did you map your fenris/levy differently? Why not just put the turrets on VA's Fenris and be done with it?
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Reply #124 on: July 21, 2006, 03:27:14 am
Nono, he did use the fenris I'd mapped, but I think he made his upped turret version back when the one with the multiple maps was the only one around.

Oh, and the #2 version is the one in the 3.6.8 media VPs, with #3 being in the 3.6.9 ones in the Freespace Upgrade Project forum.
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Reply #125 on: July 21, 2006, 08:37:56 am
You know, even I'm not sure which one I used! :o

The original upgraded version was before the HTL Fenris was made.  It then got shifted around and reworked a while ago...

Say VA, if you're sure you can't download from Rapid, whould you like me to send you the rar files direct?  That way, you could sort everything out and have a really optimsed version... :nervous:
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Reply #126 on: July 21, 2006, 09:34:01 am
I would be able to open it in modview, but nothing more for at least 3 weeks - and even when I get back I expect to be rather busy sorry. However, I *think* this is the source file for the optimised version if you want to dump your turrets onto it and reconvert:
http://sectorfiles.net/ti-file-dump/VasudanAdmiral/UnconvertedShips/fenris-htl_highdetail.zip
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Re: An Experiment
Reply #127 on: July 21, 2006, 12:47:15 pm
BTW, Raptor, this is the one you used: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,22178.0.html

Personally, I'd kind of fancy those Triton/Aeolus turrets of yours on the Fenris..... :D
*edit*
Scratch that, I like your Fenris turrets better. :D
I dunno WTH I was thinking..... ROFL

*off-topic*
I've been thinking, is there any way to toggle the "cycle" weapon flag on/off ingame?
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Reply #128 on: July 23, 2006, 01:39:53 am
Okay VA, I'll see about updating it.  Can't garentte when it'll be done though...

Say, would you mind if I chopped the model up to create a heavy cruiser based on the Fenris, like Hammono (?) did for his Ticogoarea (Argh, damn my spelling! :mad: )

Quote from: Harbinger of DOOM on July 21, 2006, 12:47:15 pm
Personally, I'd kind of fancy those Triton/Aeolus turrets of yours on the Fenris..... :D
*edit*
Scratch that, I like your Fenris turrets better. :D
I dunno WTH I was thinking..... ROFL

Yea, those turrets were intended to stand besides the new Orion triple turrets I made ages ago.  Man that was a long time ago... those ones are actually quite basic compared to the ones I'm making these days.

Don't have a clue about your last point (haven't yet used the flag!)
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Re: An Experiment
Reply #129 on: July 23, 2006, 03:25:34 am
The cycle flag is a weapon flag that makes the weapon muzzles fire one at a time, instead of both at the same time.
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Reply #130 on: July 23, 2006, 03:02:37 pm
I knew that, I just haven't used it yet :rolleyes:
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Re: An Experiment
Reply #131 on: July 23, 2006, 03:39:59 pm
oh. It actually is better than the dual-fire mode when dogfighting.
At least thats what I think.
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Reply #132 on: July 26, 2006, 08:25:13 am
Now I'm fustrated... :mad:

I just spent the last hour and a half refitting that higher poly version of the Fenris you provided VA with my new turrets.

After some trouble with maps in wrong format and misnamed pof files, the darn thing still refused to work!  Corrupt or something...

Except... now even the older ones, which worked before, refuse to work! :hopping:

You sure you won't have the chance todo this instead?  I could just send you the new turrets for you to add on...
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Reply #133 on: July 26, 2006, 02:01:50 pm
I'm sure - I can't do anything of that sort till I get back to Sydney, which is 2 weeks away, not counting the busy time I'll have upon arriving home.

The best I can do at this point is speculate.
Refusing to work - does that mean it opens in modview/PCS fine, but the game crashes when you try to load it? Or do you mean it crashed during conversion?  Need more info!
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Reply #134 on: July 27, 2006, 12:45:09 am
Quote from: Vasudan Admiral on July 26, 2006, 02:01:50 pm
Refusing to work - does that mean it opens in modview/PCS fine, but the game crashes when you try to load it? Or do you mean it crashed during conversion?  Need more info!

The former.  Modelview/PCS loads fine, but as soon as I try to load a mission containing the ship...
'ERROR: Failed to load model file <>' (paraphrasing here)

Haven't tried in FRED yet.  I was under the impression that Modelview was more twitchy than FS, and that if it loads in Modelview it's fine... :wtf:
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Reply #135 on: July 27, 2006, 04:26:07 am
That sounds like a pof data error of some sort then - can you view it in the techroom or the ship lab?

And I've always found modview to be far more forgiving than FS for all errors I've ever encountered, so it's not a good guage for telling if it will or will not work in-game.
It is however a good platform for finding errors. Send the pof over to me if you want, and I should hopefully be able to point you in the right direction. :)
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Reply #136 on: July 27, 2006, 02:14:25 pm
Quote from: Vasudan Admiral on July 27, 2006, 04:26:07 am
That sounds like a pof data error of some sort then - can you view it in the techroom or the ship lab?

No, but that's because the ship does not appear in the techroom list (along with like 75% of the ships in my tbl file, all of which have the 'in tech database' flag...)


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It is however a good platform for finding errors. Send the pof over to me if you want, and I should hopefully be able to point you in the right direction. :)

Okay, I'll do that.  I'm certainly fresh out of ideas.
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Reply #137 on: July 27, 2006, 04:57:13 pm
In the mainhall, press F3 to go to the lab - where you can view any model in the tables. It bypasses whether or not it is visible in the techroom completely. Awesome thing it is. :D
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Reply #138 on: July 28, 2006, 03:50:09 am
Ah thanks VA.  No one's yet (till now) told me how to access this ship lab thing (I guess since it came will I was away, and everyone thought everyone knew about it)

But I have to ask... surely the flag in question should work?  Is the techroom not good enough (aside from the aformentioned dissappearing ships thing)?
...There ought to be something surreal about a Zoid offering romantic advice...and yet there is not. It seems perfectly normal that the Liger is giving Bit advice on relationships, and it shouldn't, but it does. Dangit man, you've confused me again.[/I]
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Reply #139 on: July 28, 2006, 04:31:28 am
The tech room display of the ship isn't big enough usually - and the lab allows you to check lods, take unhindered easy screenshots of only the model you want, display in wireframe  and I think edit table values from inside the game. Haven't tried that bit yet though.
Think of it as a small developers platform inside the game itself. :)
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