[karajorma]

FS2_Open has got a lot of bugs. It's a symptom of the fact that we don't have enough programmers to stamp them all out and that we often get little help in spotting and quantifying them from the rest of the community.

On the other hand FS2_Open is stable enough to be playable if you do everything right. We're working on improving the programs stability as much as possible. I've certainly found it works well enough that I can play whenever I want. The problems with FS2_Open are down to user error almost as often as due to a bug. That's why I'm trying to get everyone to install everything in one way. The more uniform everyone's FS2_Open installs become the easier it becomes to seperate what's a bug from what isn't.

That's why I've been telling you throughout this thread that you have to install FS2_Open properly. If you don't, if you think that sticking mods in the mediavps folder etc if a good idea then you basically make it impossible for anyone to help you.

[Mobius]

That's why I've been telling you throughout this thread that you have to install FS2_Open properly. If you don't, if you think that sticking mods in the mediavps folder etc if a good idea then you basically make it impossible for anyone to help you.

I know it but even without mods,happens what happens...

[karajorma]

Um. What happens? This thread has dragged on so long that it's hard to tell which complain you're making now.

If you're certain that you haven't got any mods interfering with the contents of the main FS2 folder you can try this for me. Run with no mods from the launcher. Then tell me everything that goes wrong.

[Nuclear1]

The most common problems regard music soundtracks,textures and advtextures.what I need to do?The 3.6.9 has the same problems?Can I update my 3.6.7 to 3.6.9 directly?

Everything that you've downloaded with an MV prefix should go in a folder called mediavps. This folder should include, if you've downloaded the entire pack:

mv_core
mv_effects
mv_adveffects
mv_music
mv_textures
mv_models

If you've got anything else in that folder that does not start with mv_, then it has to go. That's what might be causing some problems. Name this folder mediavp.

The Inferno R1 folder should include everything that you plan on using in your mod (changed tables, Inferno VPs, etc.). No media VPs should be put in this folder. Name this folder Inferno.

Open the Launcher and select the Features (or Flags) tab. Under custom flags, copy/paste this exact command:

-mod Inferno, mediavp

Run FS2, and see if you still have problems.

[Mobius]

I don't know why the 3.6.7 works and the 3.6.8 not even setting all as-God-demands.
Here you are:

Error:mv_music.tbm(10):
Error: Required token = [#SoundTrack End] or [$Name:],found[+nocreate].

File:parse/parselo.ccp
Line:551
[This filename points to the location of a file on the computer that biult this executable]

Call stack
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

[This info is on the clipboard so you can paste it somewhere now]

Use Ok to break into Debugger, Cancel exits.

If I click Ok,many other Error warnings appear,regarding 11,16,17,18,19,25,26 music tbms.

After the music tbms,then arrive the models:

models-wep-tbm Harpoon,crossbow etc...

[karajorma]

What build of FRED are you using to get that error?

Got to the Recent Builds forum and try again with 3.6.9 RC 5.

[Mobius]

What build of FRED are you using to get that error?

FRED?You mean FS Open?
This happens when I use the 3.6.8 mediavps.
Before get the 3.6.9,I ust be sure that all will work fine. I can't download and maintain 3 entire packs of media vps in my computer,it's getting slower and slower.So,can I delete the 3.6.8 mediavps?

[karajorma]

If you're trying to use the 3.6.8 zeta media VPs with an old build it's not going to work. You have to use the corresponding build.

Use 3.6.7 VPs with 3.6.7
Use 3.6.8 Zeta VPs (basically the 3.6.9 beta VPs) with 3.6.9 Release Candidates.

[Mobius]

I have the 3.6.8 mediavps...what I need now is the launcher?
I can't find the link inthe SCP site. Can you post them here directly?
After downoading the 3.6.8,can I continue to use the 3.6.7 FRED2 Open?

[karajorma]

You can not use VP files with an earlier version of FRED on most occassions. That's pretty much what I just said.

As for the SCP launcher you'll find v5.4 in the recent builds forum. You shouldn't be able to miss it.

[Mobius]

I have big trouble entering the site,I've also logged in but not able to confirm the creation of my account.
So,please,give me the link from here.I hope it will work.

[karajorma]

What site? I'm talking about the recent builds forum here on HLP.

[Mobius]

I was meaning the SCP site,I tried to log in...
Thanks,however.

[Mobius]

Okay I have downloaded 3.6.8 Fred 2 Open and FS Open from the 17th May CVS thread.
I selected this because I found a link where I downloaded the 3.6.8 mediavps(DUDE-3.6.8 Zeta).I also have the two alpha patches,but of course I need help. How I install them now?
I tried with something fast-and-not-much-effective,but the game reported a dds compression error and all is white.

[karajorma]

By now you really should be getting the hang of how to install a build and VPs.

But this sort of thing isn't going to help cause at the moment you appear to be choosing components at random, installing them and then wondering why things don't work.

AFAIK you can only get the alpha patches from the 3.6.9 RC threads yet for some reason (despite me telling you that you should use a 3.6.9 RC with the 3.6.8 Zetas) you've chosen to download the May 17th build instead (which is probably the most bug filled build in the last 4-5 months).

Have a look in my FAQ. I describe exactly how to set up FS2_Open properly in a large amount of detail. Read it. Par your folder down to a basic FS2 Retail install as described and then install only FS2_Open 3.6.9 RC 5. The corresponding FRED2_Open build and the launcher. Nothing else.

If that doesn't give you problems then and only then should you add the mediavps to the mediavps folder.

[Mobius]

I always say: God sent you here!

Do you have a Fan Club? Should I create it?

[karajorma]

Only if you fill it with beautiful women

[Mobius]

Women?Working as ponpon girls?

The ones who say:Gimme a K,an A,a R ecc. ecc.
K-A-R-A-J-O-R-M-A.

I don't know...Is there at least a single woman who likes FS?
What is the exact pronunciation of your nick?

[karajorma]

Pom pom girls would be a nice start

For the record it's pronounced Ka-Rah-Jawr-ma

[Admiral Edivad]

I don't know...Is there at least a single woman who likes FS?

Yes, there is at least one. My sister.
She offered to test the Steadfast missions. Unfortunately she's only 10...