Author Topic: PCS 2.0 ... any word? (Read 4410 times)

TrashMan · **on:** July 04, 2006, 05:47:43 pm

What say you Kaz?

We all could use it.

the 1.3.4. chrashes quite often... for instance when I loaded a model and want to load another (o have to close and start up PCS again) .. or when I try to Import Glow data....

Nuke · **Reply #1 on:** July 05, 2006, 02:23:03 am

didnt the glow data import get fixed?

aldo_14 · **Reply #2 on:** July 05, 2006, 03:28:44 am

Quote from: Nuke on July 05, 2006, 02:23:03 am

didnt the glow data import get fixed?

I thought so.

TrashMan · **Reply #3 on:** July 05, 2006, 08:56:53 am

Well, it crashes on me. What is the latest version? Can I get a download link?

Starman01 · **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2006, 01:25:21 pm

Kazan posted a link in the last PCS 2.0 Thread. I don't have the link handy right now, just make a search for it

(Edit) Try this one, maybe it's the right build :

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,39279.0.html

TrashMan · **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2006, 04:07:43 pm

Thank you very much good sir

nOW to add glowy goodnes to all my ships

TrashMan · **Reply #6 on:** July 06, 2006, 04:30:54 pm

It works, but sadly Bob's Orion and mine seem to be unaligned.
When I import the glows they are all misplaced..seems that his and mine have the axis in differnt places. No matter, I'll jsut have to do it manualyl then.

The problem is that the PCS shows the glows as white boxes, while hte ship is allso white. I can't see a darn thing. So to put glows I had to move around a bogus subsystem in Modelview and write down the coordintes.

Now the Orion Mk2 and Lancer are glowed with running lights and stuff, and the Hecate has some glows too, but this should be easier. I can't wait for 2.0 to finalyl come out...

Scooby_Doo · **Reply #7 on:** July 06, 2006, 06:18:05 pm

Quote from: TrashMan on July 06, 2006, 04:30:54 pm

The problem is that the PCS shows the glows as white boxes, while hte ship is allso white. I can't see a darn thing. So to put glows I had to move around a bogus subsystem in Modelview and write down the coordintes.

Heres what I've done to make it faster. Each gun setup, eye, missile, etc is a unique EngGlow0X-0X (engine 1, eye 2, guns 3-4, etc.... symetric entryies (like guns) don't need both sides) Convert it to pof, save it to a temporary pof file. Load a second copy of PCS. Open up that temp pof. Then copy and paste values from one PCS to the other :-)

Oh and if the newer PCS version complains about stack problems, convert it with the old version and save first. I've noticed the newer one is way more touchier when it comes to stack problems.

Pnakotus · **Reply #8 on:** July 06, 2006, 08:23:14 pm

So there's no way to texture the preview? I'm trying to move engine points, but I don't even think it gives any feedback on the model so I'm just guessing coords.

StratComm · **Reply #9 on:** July 06, 2006, 10:36:19 pm

Quote from: TrashMan on July 06, 2006, 04:30:54 pm

It works, but sadly Bob's Orion and mine seem to be unaligned.
When I import the glows they are all misplaced..seems that his and mine have the axis in differnt places. No matter, I'll jsut have to do it manualyl then.

The problem is that the PCS shows the glows as white boxes, while hte ship is allso white. I can't see a darn thing. So to put glows I had to move around a bogus subsystem in Modelview and write down the coordintes.

Now the Orion Mk2 and Lancer are glowed with running lights and stuff, and the Hecate has some glows too, but this should be easier. I can't wait for 2.0 to finalyl come out...

That actually matters, you should probably line your Orion's center up with the one from the MediaVPs. I made an extra effort to make sure it matched the original Orion when it was last converted.

Scooby_Doo · **Reply #10 on:** July 06, 2006, 11:00:36 pm

Quote from: Pnakotus on July 06, 2006, 08:23:14 pm

So there's no way to texture the preview? I'm trying to move engine points, but I don't even think it gives any feedback on the model so I'm just guessing coords.

Try putting a gun mount where the engine glow is and move the gun mount until your happy with where it's suppose to go, then move the engine to that spot and delete the gun mount.

Starman01 · **Reply #11 on:** July 07, 2006, 01:30:25 am

Unfortunately the render-window in PCS was always the only "not so good" feature (I don't want to say bad

) in PCS.

THe render-window does work, it's just a matter of where to put the texture files. It's either alligned to the folders you can setup, or try to have the pcx-files in the same folder as the pof you are trying to open.

Nuke · **Reply #12 on:** July 07, 2006, 02:22:20 pm

a big problem i have with pcs and modelview is neither support modern texture formats/resolutions. pcs2 should adress this problem.

TrashMan · **Reply #13 on:** July 07, 2006, 07:52:57 pm

Quote from: StratComm on July 06, 2006, 10:36:19 pm

Quote from: TrashMan on July 06, 2006, 04:30:54 pm
It works, but sadly Bob's Orion and mine seem to be unaligned.
When I import the glows they are all misplaced..seems that his and mine have the axis in differnt places. No matter, I'll jsut have to do it manualyl then.

The problem is that the PCS shows the glows as white boxes, while hte ship is allso white. I can't see a darn thing. So to put glows I had to move around a bogus subsystem in Modelview and write down the coordintes.

Now the Orion Mk2 and Lancer are glowed with running lights and stuff, and the Hecate has some glows too, but this should be easier. I can't wait for 2.0 to finalyl come out...

That actually matters, you should probably line your Orion's center up with the one from the MediaVPs. I made an extra effort to make sure it matched the original Orion when it was last converted.

The strange thing is - so did I....

StratComm · **Reply #14 on:** July 07, 2006, 08:52:28 pm

Quote from: Nuke on July 07, 2006, 02:22:20 pm

a big problem i have with pcs and modelview is neither support modern texture formats/resolutions. pcs2 should adress this problem.

Yeah, and it's a shame that Kazan has gone back into the neather-realm of wherever it is he goes. I somehow doubt we'll ever see a fully-functional PCS 2.

Quote from: TrashMan on July 07, 2006, 07:52:57 pm

The strange thing is - so did I....

Then you'd better check yours again. Unless you're talking about the runway glows, in which case yes, any variation you made of the Orion won't match there as the runway is constructed differently so they may both be close to correct. But I know the Media VP has its axis exactly where it is supposed to be. Just check the subobject the glowbanks are assigned to; I noticed they were... odd on a version in one of the older MediaVP sets.

Nuke · **Reply #15 on:** July 08, 2006, 03:35:51 pm

hey is anyone working on modelview, it has potential, just needs more features and texture support

Scooby_Doo · **Reply #16 on:** July 08, 2006, 04:24:16 pm

It's too bad PCS isn't open source, look whats been done with freespace. Especially since it's a necessitity for freespace.

taylor · **Reply #17 on:** July 08, 2006, 05:16:50 pm

Quote from: Nuke on July 08, 2006, 03:35:51 pm

hey is anyone working on modelview, it has potential, just needs more features and texture support

Yeah, unfortunately the modelview code is such crap that large portions of it need to be rewritten for better texture support/handling.

Nuke · **Reply #18 on:** July 09, 2006, 01:45:57 am

another thing id like to see is a fully cross-platform model viewer and editor that can do everything the existing tools do. it would have to be fully featured enough to completely replace the other tools so that people on linux or osx can have as good a conversion as people on pc do with pcs and modelview combined (some stuff pcs is better at and other stuff modelview is the way to go). it would also need to support model formats native to osx and linux modeling tools in addition to pc-centric formats like 3ds and cob.

Kazan · **Reply #19 on:** July 21, 2006, 09:10:26 pm

Quote from: Scooby_Doo on July 08, 2006, 04:24:16 pm

It's too bad PCS isn't open source, look whats been done with freespace. Especially since it's a necessitity for freespace.

you're on crack

http://alliance.cvs.sourceforge.net/alliance/pcs2/

the nether-realm i've been hiding is has been trying to get back into shape,going to soccer games and boffing my fiancee

[edit]oh nuke.. pcs2 is being designed cross-platform. taylor could help me out a lot there if he ever gets time from his codeathon on the engine

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