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Offline Sandwich

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on: November 20, 2001, 03:35:00 pm
Trying out a proggie called Illusion - it's really cool - it's for particle animation and stuff like that. Anyway, I put together a little AVI that I think y'all will like...  ;) :lol:

A Better Mousetrap (392Kb, DivX 4)

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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

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Reply #1 on: November 20, 2001, 04:13:00 pm
Heheheehhe, that's good.    I always rooted for the cat anyway  

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Reply #2 on: November 20, 2001, 05:51:00 pm
the whole animation is really cool u gotta show me how to use that

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Reply #3 on: November 21, 2001, 04:55:00 am
Really good particle and smoke effects!
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Reply #4 on: November 21, 2001, 05:07:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Styxx:
Really good particle and smoke effects!

 

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Reply #5 on: November 21, 2001, 10:27:00 am
 
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Originally posted by Styxx:
Really good particle and smoke effects!

Habeeb it...
 

Offline Setekh

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Reply #6 on: November 22, 2001, 03:03:00 am
 !  !  !

Good work, Sandwich  
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Reply #7 on: November 22, 2001, 10:24:00 am
Glad to see that Illusion has been put to good work already.
That was the basic concept with Illusion.
Just my wrong there.

I have a new avi on my server  called Tracking.avi
Why tracking?
I haven't the faintest...

It's a cool animation for the BIG BOYS.  yep 17 megs  cable adviceble.

It has full 44 Hrz stereo sound and it is a DiViX 640 X 360. it runs pretty smooth.
I deceided to dedicate it to all the squads of FS2. Past, present and surely future.

I will render a new version, half in size and format with mono 8 bit sound. That will soon be coming.

Have fun  and lets have some feed back...
 



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Offline Thorn

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Reply #8 on: November 22, 2001, 07:30:00 pm
Dedicate it to enough people? Jeez....
Its pretty nifty...
I wanna see that thing finished....
 

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Reply #9 on: November 22, 2001, 08:25:00 pm
if someone could give me a hand...    

I work primarely, on this type of thing, with Lightwave.

If anyone has Lightwave installed I'd be happy to share all my models and scene effects, lighting and textures set ups for this.
There is a huge amount to do to develop the storyline.
I have some one doing the charecters, then it will be a joy to manuall animate them.
Yeah right!  a joy...
 

Next Monday my animation school starts,
 me teaching...  hehe  do they know what they are in for?

Wish me luck!

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[This message has been edited by CougEr (edited 11-22-2001).]
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"This is not about FS2 or PXO any more. This is about YOUR ATTITUDE, Your place in any society, your ability and willpower to stand up and make a difference. For what ever small your effort might seem it's all part of a bigger picture in every aspects of your life."
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Reply #10 on: November 22, 2001, 09:07:00 pm
I have lightwave, but I never got around to learning more than the real basics..... I've been using MAX.
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Reply #11 on: November 22, 2001, 11:13:00 pm
Do you have the original lightwave library of models, texture and images?

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"This is not about FS2 or PXO any more. This is about YOUR ATTITUDE, Your place in any society, your ability and willpower to stand up and make a difference. For what ever small your effort might seem it's all part of a bigger picture in every aspects of your life."
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Reply #12 on: November 22, 2001, 11:20:00 pm
don't think so.......
WE ARE HARD LIGHT PRODUCTIONS. YOU WILL LOWER YOUR FIREWALLS AND SURRENDER YOUR KEYBOARDS. WE WILL ADD YOUR INTELLECTUAL AND VERNACULAR DISTINCTIVENESS TO OUR OWN. YOUR FORUMS WILL ADAPT TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
 

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Reply #13 on: November 22, 2001, 11:21:00 pm
    too much to download...  
maybe scene by scene...


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"This is not about FS2 or PXO any more. This is about YOUR ATTITUDE, Your place in any society, your ability and willpower to stand up and make a difference. For what ever small your effort might seem it's all part of a bigger picture in every aspects of your life."
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Reply #14 on: November 24, 2001, 06:45:00 am
I'' take a look when I'm back home. 48kbps is decent for a modem, but ADSL is preferrable.  

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"...The quintessential quality of our age is that of dreams coming true. Just think of it. For centuries we have dreamt of flying; recently we made that come true: we have always hankered for speed; now we have speeds greater than we can stand: we wanted to speak to far parts of the Earth; we can: we wanted to explore the sea bottom; we have: and so  on, and so on: and, too, we wanted the power to smash our enemies utterly; we have it. If we had truly wanted peace, we should have had that as well. But true peace has never been one of the genuine dreams - we have got little further than preaching against war in order to appease our consciences. The truly wishful dreams, the many-minded dreams are now irresistible - they become facts." - 'The Outward Urge' by John Wyndham

"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #15 on: November 24, 2001, 08:23:00 am
Okay, Tracking.avi is actually one lightwave master scene. One single  .lws file  with a huge number of polys. It needs a fast videocard to view it in open GL. Even at 64 x 64 pixel res it will stagger to run a preview on my card. Elsa Gloria II  
 So my advice is view only wireframe models, turn off lens flare in open GL and you'll get a decent movement bias to the final render on all 4 perspectives.
I will provide the models for the scene  with a camera run down.
The fundamental lighting set up has been done but some areas will need further lighting to the new or moved models.
Most of the models  have already textures rendered in other scenes and under totally different lighting conditions.
So they might need some tweeking done to suit.

I'm also looking for any files .lwm  models from FS2. Herc II, obviously some caps like an Orion class, a Deimos class, a Mara, Sekh and so forth...
 It would be great to see an FS2 scene rendered in Lightwave.



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Offline Setekh

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Reply #16 on: November 24, 2001, 09:21:00 pm
Dude, I just viewed tracking.avi...

That is amazing - how damn long did it take to render?   Massive kudos to you, dude!
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Reply #17 on: November 25, 2001, 03:07:00 am
thank you Setekh.
 To render Tracking.avi A scene  with 3 different cameras  it took in all 3 days
 There are more than 72 lights  and each one   has to be set for everything.  Forget one flare to  hide behind objects  and you're stuffed.  
 
In future  a master scene like that I'll have to brake it in to several scenes  reducing the objects in it,  especially the object  hidden from the camera.

No point in rendering all options  if they are not going to be seen.
Rendering was  an average of 6 mins per frame. and there are over 1200  frames in all plus the off-cuts.
 
about one week full time for settingvthe scene up  about 2- 3 days  test rendering  textures  and spot random renders to make sure all the flares are behaving the correct way.
If you notice  the first part (the star scape in the background) is staggering.  
I should have rendered at 30 frames per secs,but I only rendered about 100 dframes  and lenghten the clip  in premier by slowing it down. the results    CRAP!  

I guess I'll have to re render that part  and recompile  the avi.
 yeah right   sometimes...  

 
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[This message has been edited by CougEr (edited 11-25-2001).]
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