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Offline CougEr

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the shivan answer to the Colossus.
Yep,   this is BELZEBU'! also known as: "The 3 heads monster"
 Similar in class and size to the Colossus. Designs were stolen from a Vasudan concept and applied to their own Shivan technology.
With this baby around no system will ever be secure for the GTF.

Actually  this is an exercise I did this week for the modelling part of the course.
Everyone seemed to like making it.    
it's a .LWO 4000 poli.  
Still too big as a mod for FS2?
     
BTW,  this is an open GL display only.  Still, looks as good as a TS render almost.
 
   


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Offline Monaco

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  It's a foot!  

Seriously though, isn't the Sathanas the Shivan's answer to the Colossus? At any rate, awesome model.

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Offline Setekh

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Hey, neat model.  

For animation, I take it?
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Offline Fineus

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Originally posted by Monaco:
   It's a foot!  


It does look kinda like one, but I like it  


 

Offline Nico

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4000 polys? yes, too much. it's 850 max per submodel. make the engine with maps, not models!
SCREW CANON!

 

Offline CougEr

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ummm, yes! making the engines outlets in a map would probably save about 1000 poligons.
  But I made the subpatch division a little too rich.
  and now there isn't really a way to reduce poli without ending up with holes in the hull.

850 poligons  max for sub mods ehh?
 I'd remake it if it would be used, somehow.

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Offline Thorn

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the shivan answer to the Colossus.
I looks more Vasudan than Shivan to me...

 

Offline Nico

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Originally posted by Thorn:
I looks more Vasudan than Shivan to me...

yeah, I wanted to say that too, just forgot  
SCREW CANON!

 
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Quote
Originally posted by Monaco:
   It's a foot!  


!!!!!!lol!!!!!!

but why they need an answer when they got sathanasas? doesnt this make sense?



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Offline CougEr

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Okay, explanation...
Often news of strategic operations resulting in losses to the alliance is not divulged to the media for obvious reasons.

The designs of 3 heads monster, code name: BELZEBU', were in fact intercepted by the NTF during a raid to a Vasudan-Terran blockade in Capella.
It is allegedly said that Admiral Bosh's Iceni mysteriously jumped in during the final part of the raid and managed to capture a Vasudan evacuation shuttle containing the plans for what it was supposed to be a new and most powerful Terran-Vasudan destroyer. Later realized and identified by the Shivan as the 3 heads monster: BELZEBU'. The source of the  original design (Vasudan) might explain its looks.

Following the capture and loss of those plans, the selection for an alliance winning design was rushed through and awarded to the next proposal in line, The Colossus.
Using as point of reference copies of the stolen plans, The Colossus was built slightly better than Belzebu'.
A race in time to complete the two Argonauts saw both opposing forces working hard at beating each other and the confirmation of an elaborate spy network operating on both sides.

The new terran-Vasudan Argonaut was realized in record time... despise of the redesigns, major improvement and modifications to all its weaponry, communication, armour and navigation subsystems.

Unfortunately the Shivans had other plans in the making and suddenly, just as the attention of the conflict was focussed on the two Argonauts construction, the Shivans unleashed yet another of their well kept secrets from their arsenals in the war arena: The Sathanas.

Intelligence later confirmed that the Sathanas was in fact one of many Argonauts now being released and deployed by the Shivans for control of several systems.
The war had just taken a turn for the worst  for our alliance.

    From the recovered files of the GTVA Central Intelligence Agency.
    Special agent: Miller, codename: Viper.
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Offline KillMeNow

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i dont like the engine pod but other than that cool
ARGHHH

 

Offline IceFire

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Sorry, but I have trouble believing that the Shivans designed and built the Sathanas to counter the Colossus.

Ontop of that, I have trouble believing that the Shivans would need to steal technology from anyone.

The Sathanas class as I figure it are fairly ancient.  The Lucifer probably even more ancient.

Anyways, not to discredit your modeling work. Its pretty good and it has some fairly nice lines!

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Offline RoachKoach

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icefire is right - the Shivans dont need "answers" to anything , they probably built the sathanii when we terrans were just landing on the moon and feeling damn great...

and its impossible for the shivans to ever make a ship to respond to something they see in time. their fleets that engage us are probably so old that the last sathanas was created when our 1st orion was put into production, and yet they can wip our @sses every time.

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Offline RoachKoach

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the shivan answer to the Colossus.
who knows what they were building when the colossus was completed.....
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Offline KillMeNow

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couger - you seem to be quite good with lightwave so how you save a wireframe view in modeler as an image file???????
ARGHHH

 

Offline Vertigo1

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Just a suggestion:

I'd loose the big engine section completely and have little small ones along the rear section of the ship.  Maybe one or two on the nose for added manuverability.  It looks like its gonna fly in a constant loop as it is right now.  You can also cut back on the polygon count by reducing the smoothing a bit.

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Offline Su-tehp

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the shivan answer to the Colossus.
Colossus took twenty years to build. Admiral Bosch couldn't have stolen any plans in 2345 (when the Colossus construction began) because 1) he wasn't an admiral yet (he was a lieutentant during the Great War in 2335; ten years later he would probably be a commander or captain) and 2) the NTF Rebellion wouldn't be starting for another 20 years.

And the Shivans weren't anywhere near GTVA space until 2367 so they couldn't steal ANYTHING (let alone a ship design) from the GTVA until that time.

Just my two cents

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Offline CougEr

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the shivan answer to the Colossus.
Actually it was the NTF that built the Belzebu'.
It was later realized and identified by the Shivans as The 3 head monster.
 The shivans "UNLEASHED", (not built) THE SATHANAS.
 According to intelligence reports, the Sathanas and the other Shivan Argounauts for this matter, are very old.
Practcally ancient according to our chronological  records.
Carbon testing made to some recovered fragments of the Lucifer after its destruction by our forces,
defines the time of construction same as the Knossos ancient portal discovered in the Gamma Draconis system.
Graviton fluctuations constantly present in that system also are contributing factors to the believe
that some kind of temporal distortion is present there.
Amazingly enough that is the system where *The ESS-7000 was moved to by the Homs to avoid further temporal distortions
to the time line.
Although there is no actual proof to confirm that the Sathanas does in fact belongs to the same period,
it is commonly believed that the Shivan Argounats must have been built way before the begining of this war.
Probably for a different conflict but not deployed until recently for other reasons.

The non deployment of such forces by the Shivan until recently put forward further speculations and a validates
the Homs theory that the Shivans main base or home planet is not with in our known systems.  
The time it took for those Argonauts to arrive from where ever they came from, could justify the great distances
they had to travel to arrive here in aid of their invation.

Now... does it make sense?
         
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Offline Vertigo1

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Dude, its Knossos not Chnosos, and Gamma Drakonis not Gamma Drakonies.  

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Offline CougEr

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Thanks MD,  
fixed!

 

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