[Mobius]

Martellato?Are you Italian?
(Your nick)

Nice work with this list,even coloured!

[martellato]

Thanks both.

The nick is definitely Italian.. though I'm not.  Was just looking for some nick that someelse didn't already have, so I pulled out an English-Italian translator and tried to find a catchy nick for "hammered".

[Mobius]

Thanks both.

The nick is definitely Italian.. though I'm not.  Was just looking for some nick that someelse didn't already have, so I pulled out an English-Italian translator and tried to find a catchy nick for "hammered".

Umpf,you're not Italian...
Keep in mind that martellato sounds like marmellata(jam)

My search of other Italian member continues....woooshhh

[martellato]

aw.      *rejected*

[Mobius]

aw.      *rejected*

Don't worry.Only me,Edivad,Dysko,Yemminator and Karma know this hammer-jam thing...and of course.
You should be proud to have an Italian nick,FreeSpace uses more Italian words than any other english game.
Terra-Luna-agenda-per-via-Sol(e)-La Ruota Della Fortuna(an FS1 mission)....
Most classes and weapons name have something to do with Italy,even non canon ones:
Inferno-Circe-Scylla-Cyclops-Aeolus-Messana etc.
If I remember more of them,I'll post them here.

One more thing:
I live in a Southern Region of Italy,called Calabria:

Do you remember the names of the warships in Clash of the Titans II?
Well,the place where I lived is called Sparta,at about 5 km there are some Bastions built by some kind of Templars,the Knights of Malta,to defend the Region from Pirates.Good,uh?

[brandx0]

Actually Most are derived from latin (which of course evolved into italian, but also languages such as french, spanish, english (though more german based) romanian etc.)

[Mobius]

Actually Most are derived from latin (which of course evolved into italian, but also languages such as french, spanish, english (though more german based) romanian etc.)

Latin is dead,but unfortunately it survives in schools
La Ruota Della Fortuna IS Italian.
My Calabria was colonized by Greeks and called Magna Graecia(latin,"Great Greace").The guy who wrote the Odissey probably lived here,as well as Pitagoras.
FreeSpace is here.....

[Mobius]

Ah,I forgot Francesco(Francis,like me!!!) Petrarca(Petrarch).

[Christopherger]

LieutenantGeneral M, sir, I have been to your great country several times, and lived in Venizia form a time (i am an artist by trade of some 35 yrs.) and love your country, people, history, esp. You are fron Petrarch's home town! He was a great master!  I study the history of Rome for many reasons over the years, and tho it is far from Freespace universe, there is a game called Caesar which gives an unparalleled chance to experience the growth and details of ancient Roma, Caesar II is quite good, tho old and DOS.

I think the idea of the info on builds is a great one, as I am just now working through the install of FS O, and thought the Academy Headmaster was very very kind to give me details, this would be a great intro for people and a way to keep current.

Valle and Il buon giorno e li ringrazia. 

[Mobius]

Christ(o):
Sorry but I didn't undestand the last sentence....
Valle and the good morning and thanks?
You visited venezia and Rome I think but you forgot the best part...the South(with all respect for Dysko,Edivad and Karma)!

hammered:this page isn't stickied but your efforts are much appreciated

[Polpolion]

aw.      *rejected*

Don't worry.Only me,Edivad,Dysko,Yemminator and Karma know this hammer-jam thing...and of course.
You should be proud to have an Italian nick,FreeSpace uses more Italian words than any other english game.
Terra-Luna-agenda-per-via-Sol(e)-La Ruota Della Fortuna(an FS1 mission)....
Most classes and weapons name have something to do with Italy,even non canon ones:
Inferno-Circe-Scylla-Cyclops-Aeolus-Messana etc.
If I remember more of them,I'll post them here.

One more thing:
I live in a Southern Region of Italy,called Calabria:

Do you remember the names of the warships in Clash of the Titans II?
Well,the place where I lived is called Sparta,at about 5 km there are some Bastions built by some kind of Templars,the Knights of Malta,to defend the Region from Pirates.Good,uh?

A fair amount of those words are Latin (Latin != Italian except in some cases), and everyone knows that Martamello is (sorta) jam now, since you posted it. 

[brandx0]

Terra, Latin word for Earth, or land
Luna, Latin word for Moon
Sol, Latin word for The Sun
Inferno, from latin Infernus: "hell"
Circe, a greek goddess
Scylla, a greek sea monster
Cyclops, from the greek "kyklops" meaning round eyed, a greek monster
Aeolus, Greek, the son of poseidon
Messana, Named in honour of the Greek city Messene
Sparta, a greek city state, named before Italian existed as a language
Bastion, derived from Bastille, a french word for fortress, or tower
Templar, from latin Templaris
Malta, from the Latin Melite, or perhaps the Phonecian Melita, meaning a place of refuge

Greek seems to be the language of preference and naming, moreso than Italian.

[Flipside]

Nuts, forgot to rename it and don't know how to after I've created the thread

It's a mixture really of the two, in the case of Freespace a lot more Latin turns up than Greek, Hercules instead of Heracles, Poseidon instead of Neptune etc, however, oddly enough, Orion is a glaring contradiction to that.

[BS403]

Poseidon is greek
isn't it?

[Flipside]

Yup, sorry, got that the wrong way round there, Poseidon is one of the Greek ones too

Well, to sum up what I can remember,
I'm pretty sure Deimos was Latin, but not certain, but certainly Athena, Ares, Apollo, Hercules, Triton and Ulysses  were Latin. There were some 'transients', Myrmidon, Medusa, Pegasus and Leviathan which were, I believe, the same in both languages, and Zeus, Orion, Hera, Poseidon, Hades and Knossos were Greek in Origin.

Oh and the Fenris was Norse for some reason.

There are more, but that's just from memory early in the morning

[Herra Tohtori]

Yup, sorry, got that the wrong way round there, Poseidon is one of the Greek ones too

Well, to sum up what I can remember,
I'm pretty sure Deimos was Latin, but not certain, but certainly Athena, Ares, Apollo, Hercules, Triton and Ulysses  were Latin. There were some 'transients', Myrmidon, Medusa, Pegasus and Leviathan which were, I believe, the same in both languages, and Zeus, Orion, Hera, Poseidon, Hades and Knossos were Greek in Origin.

Oh and the Fenris was Norse for some reason.

There are more, but that's just from memory early in the morning

Deimos, and Phobos, were sons of Ares. Greek origin, but the Romans also used the names Phobos and Deimos I beleive, but they were sons of Mars instead.

Also Athena, Ares, Apollo and Triton were Greek deities. Hercules and Ulysses were latin names for Heracles and Odysseus.

Leviathan is a biblical sea monster, and it derives from jewish mythology I believe. Fenris, Mjölnir and obviously Loki are from Scandinavian mythology, and Faustus actually comes from the tale of magician and alchemist Faust who made a pact with Devil (Mephistofeles or just Mephisto...)

Anyway, most of the names for Terran craft are indeed Greek origin, but some have taken names from other cultures...

Greek names also include Hecate, Elysium, Argo and whatnot...

[Flipside]

Yeah, that's what I get for posting at 4am

Ares was Mars etc, remind me never to type a list at this time of the morning again

[Mobius]

The Latin language is currently dead...all latin-like words are definitely Italians.
Inferno is Italian.

[Herra Tohtori]

Möbius, the fact that Italy greatly derives from vulgar Latin does not make Latin Italy...

Latin is an ancient language just like ancient Greek. They are not used as first language by anyone. Italy, on the other hand, is very much alive. But so are many other languages that have derived from vulgar Latin, such as French, Spain, Portuguese and . That doesn't make them Latin, and it certainly doesn't mean that Latin is actually German, or Spanish.



Courtesy of Wikipedia, here's the "family tree" of Romance languages (languages that have evolved from Vulgar Latin, which was the "public" form in daily used, as opposed to classical Latin used in documents and whatnot... Classical Latin is what we see in famous latinisms and classical Latin is the language of Catholic church. And this is the dead language. Vulgar Latin's evolved/deformed forms live happily even now and are spoken by more than 600 million native speakers.

Italy is not classical Latin, and classical Latin is not Italy. Italy, though, can be considered the closest one to vulgar Latin of current languages.

[Mobius]

In fact it's the closest.In Spanish Earth is Tierra,not Terra for example.

I was also refering to mythological names used in FS2.In this case,Italy is protagonist.Petrarch and many other words?Why there's a FS Mission called La Ruota Della Fortuna?It isn't Latin because in Latin we don't have articles.

Mobius.The other Mobius you wrote was a surname of a math scholar,August Ferdinand Mobius.

Latin is derived by Greek.The place where I live(not Italy in general)was called Magna Graecia and was colonized by Greeks millennia ago.Romans met Grekk culture here.

Not vulgar Latin:for example,the Italian word for horse is cavallo and it derives from the vulgar latin caballus,but the High-Latin word for horse equus,survives in the Italian equino.There are many other words derived from Greek.

Here we all study Latin ans someone may choose to study Greek too(I'm not,but my mom has studied it).It's basically imposed.

Latin used the word Terra not to descrive our planet.
We use it for that purpose,however.