[Dysko]

Arr, Mobius, haven't you read the Off-Topic section? This is the Talk-like-a-pirate day!
Arrr, walk the plank.
*Volition Bravos arrive*
[Volition Bravos]The GTCa Steadfast will be pulverized! Arrrrr![/Volition Bravos]
Duh!

[Christopherger]

I appologize for posting off topic, got carried away with the interest of the subject, history etc. Mods please move if appropriate and accept my humble appologies.

Cheers and Ciao.

[Dysko]

No problem for the off-topic. I've already asked Flipside if he can move this thread to the off-topic section.

Continue talking about what you want. Tomorrow I too will have something to say, since we start the Paradiso.

[Flipside]

This be moving to the briney waters of General Discussion.

Splice the mainbrace, we be setting sail!

[Dysko]

Thanks Flipside, now I feel more comfortable...

[Mobius]

There's a lack of latin sentences here,boys(uhm,"ragazzi").
Since Christopherger seems more Italian than(English?American?)we can discuss here about funny OT stuff...
Foe example:DySkO's signature.I learned the names of Sol planets at 5,but at 8 I learned the stuff enlisted....
I'm known as "Aeronautico" here,well some years ago since now I have other things to care about....
In the Elementary I had my "army" of classmates who want to know everything about aircrafts like me

[Christopherger]

Ah, Lieutenant General, sir, your great aeronautical pioneer, Umberto Nobile (January 21, 1885-July 30, 1978) from, Lauro, province of Avellino - comes to mind, a great designer and pioneer of flight, and Gianni Caproni, 1983, Italian pioneer aircraft designer and Enrico Forlanini (Milan, 1848-1930)  who was another great Italian engineer, inventor and aeronautical pioneer, well known for his works on helicopters, aircraft....many great creators of flight there. Indeed, Leonardo da Vinci was doing novel design work in Italia long ago. The Italian air force was the first to use airplanes in a military application for the Libyan war of 1911, and flight flourished in the First World War, expanded into civil design between the wars and after WWII,  can be considered the Renaissance of Italian aviation. In commercial flight, Alitalia remains one of the most respected of all companies in the field in the world. It began in 1947 with a very small fleet, and now its planes travel everywhere. The principal company is Alenia, the former Aeritalia. Under the direction of genius designers like Gabrielli, and his pupils and successors Cereti and Vallerani, Alenia has been starred in several military flight projects (Tornado, AMX, and EFA-Typhoon) and civil aircraft (Boeing 767, MD80s, and ATR42/72).

Fine traddition and well worthy of interest.

Through challenges much has been achieved.

Ad astra per aspera   

[Mobius]

There was also Gabriele D'Annunzio....poetry,sex and airplanes that guy....

I'll make an Italian of you

"Et mihi ceciderunt brachia"-my reaction when I see someone ignorant.

[Christopherger]

Si, Grazzi,

It is not necessary to live,  But to carve our names beyond that point, This is necessary.

[ Non e necessario Vivere, si scolpire olte quel termine Nostro nome: quaesto e necessario.]

G D'A    A great man!

[Mobius]

....a great man with a great d***k!!

Foscolo,Niccolò Ugo Foscolo,lived in England for a while.Do you have infos about that period,since here we don't know so much....

[Christopherger]

Let me check, and ask some of my associates. and get back on that.

ciao for now

[Dysko]

Mobius, since you too like airplanes, and since I'm making a discussion with a classmate about what is the most popular modern aircraft (from the F-15 generation to nowadays), what is your favourite aircraft? (Obviously, everybody else can tell me his opinion)
Mine is the F-16 (I mean the decent version from Block 52 to Block 60, not that old stuff that Italy has now), my classmate's one is the Su-27.

Well, one day I'll try also to participate in the literature discussion.

[Admiral Edivad]

Mobius, since you too like airplanes, and since I'm making a discussion with a classmate about what is the most popular modern aircraft (from the F-15 generation to nowadays), what is your favourite aircraft?
Mine is the F-16 (I mean the decent version from Block 52 to Block 60, not that old stuff that Italy has now), my classmate's one is the Su-27.

Well, one day I'll try also to participate in the literature discussion.

Do we have somebody else except you and me who likes airplanes in our class?

For the literature discussion, you will have plenty to write in few days!

[Mobius]

When i was little I changed favourite airplane every....three days I think.

My favourite fighter is MY XF-200 Widowmaker,a superfighter I designed uhm,five years ago.
I drawed possibly hundreds of aircrafts,many of them were for WWII.

[Christopherger]

sorry havent had time to post work has been BUSY

F = 14 tomcat officially retired this year:

The F-14 Tomcat, the fighter jet that soared into the national imagination in the movie Top Gun, has flown for the last time. The Navy announced in February that the last F-14 combat mission was completed Feb. 8, when a pair of Tomcats landed aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt after one dropped a bomb in Iraq.

Capt. William Sizemore, who flew on that last mission, said the Tomcat will be missed. This is one of the best airplanes ever built, and it’s sad to see it go away, Sizemore said in a Navy report from the ship. It’s just a beautiful airplane. And it just looks like the ultimate fighter.

Although still swift and deadly, the F-14 is a victim of changing times.

Modern missiles have made its specialty, dogfighting, obsolete - aircraft now target each other from miles away using radar and missles.

Precision bombing is the new priority, Tomcat can’t carry the loads of the new F/A-18 Super Hornet.

It’s too expensive in the long run. The jet that flew its first combat missions in September 1974 requires 50 hours of maintenance, compared with five to 10 hours for the Super Hornet, for each hour of flight time.

[Mobius]

But the original Hornet isn't so young,since it entered active service in 1982.

I'll miss the Tomcat,really.

DySkO,in your signature there's a reference to the F-35.I think it should be called Lighting III since there were two Lightings:
1)The famous P-38,WWII;
2)One of the first jets,able of almost vertical take offs(not like a VTOL,but able to quick move pointing up once it's in the air). Also one of the first planes able to launch missiles;

Many years have passed,but I still remember something...

[Herra Tohtori]

But the original Hornet isn't so young,since it entered active service in 1982.

I'll miss the Tomcat,really.

DySkO,in your signature there's a reference to the F-35.I think it should be called Lighting III since there were two Lightings:
1)The famous P-38,WWII;
2)One of the first jets,able of almost vertical take offs(not like a VTOL,but able to quick move pointing up once it's in the air). Also one of the first planes able to launch missiles;

Many years have passed,but I still remember something...

Yay, airplane discussion...

By #2, do you refer to English Electric Lightning/BAC Lightning?


I'm not really sure what my favourite aircraft is, it changes from time to time. That said, right now it is the "Pearl of Sky", Brewster B-239. In general, I prefer propeller-driven aircraft over jets, even if jets are more powerful and efficient.

Sound of a jet engine doesn't just have the same feel to it as a big piston engine aircraft has. But that's just my opinion. All aircraft are marvellous things, though. If I had to choose a favourite military jet airplane, it would probably be Su-27 or MiG-29.

[Mobius]

This time you're right.It was English...

I noticed that you like the Su-27 (tell those English/Americans what does SUKHOI suggest in Italian...tell...them.... )
Ops,you should now it

I prefer the Su-37 to the Su-27.
I want to change this thread's name.What I have to do?Simply change the subject when I reply?

[Herra Tohtori]

Edit the starting message's subject. As simple as that.

I find Su-27 being prettier than later Sukhoi developments. Obviously they are better, but not as slim and sharp looking. The Berkut of course is something amazing, but it's ugly as hell.

By the way... did you mean Berkut or Super Flanker (Nato code Flanker-F)? Both have been dubbed Su-37 at some phase, it's a bit confusing. Berkut is now known as Su-47, though.

Of Russian planes, I find MiG-29 (and variants) to represent sheer power, while the Sukhoi 27 and later designs heavily based on it represent more..delicate way to destroy.

[Mobius]

I thought the Berkut was called Su-43.,but something must have changed since I played Ace Combat 3 for the last time...

There's also a bomber variant with a kitchen,right?