[Cobra]

I decided to install FS1 the other day (right before my old comp died) and play around after feeling nostalgic for the 640x480 goodness. Anyway, I'm in the asteroid mission with the Vasudan wings and Ace. I get to the Ace and the bastard kills me every time I encounter him. I must suck without shields, man.

[Turey]

I decided to install FS1 the other day (right before my old comp died) and play around after feeling nostalgic for the 640x480 goodness. Anyway, I'm in the asteroid mission with the Vasudan wings and Ace. I get to the Ace and the bastard kills me every time I encounter him. I must suck without shields, man.

I know the feeling. You get so used to being able to take a stray shot or two without it doing anything, and all of a sudden you're dead from a bunch of scratches.

[TrashMan]

Thats just the way I like it.
Getting killed ina few shots is the way to go - you have to FEAR your enemy.

As for how to deal with it - just unload the MX-50's at it. While it's busy evading those, you can close the distance, get either above or below it and let it rip. One dead Ace.

[Dysko]

That's strange... when I first played FS1 I didn't noticed the Ace, I noticed him only when I installed FSPort 2.3... (so... I took 8 years to realize that there was an Ace in that mission  )

[Snail]

I like having no shields and untargettable Shivans. That really gave you the we're f00ked feeling. Oh, and so do the beams on Shivvies in FSFreak's mod.

[Cyker]

I'm not too bad with unshielded craft in a gun fight; That mission in TIE Fighter where you have to clear a turret-mine-field in a 3-hit-death TIE Interceptor really hammered in the looping style I tend to use

The problem is homing missiles - Only a small handful of ships in freespace can take a double-load of harpoons/hornets when unshielded, and even if you can evade them, the splash damage is often still enough to hurt you pretty bad...

[Knarfe1000]

I'm not too bad with unshielded craft in a gun fight; That mission in TIE Fighter where you have to clear a turret-mine-field in a 3-hit-death TIE Interceptor really hammered in the looping style I tend to use

That´s the mission where the traitor-bastard Harkov want´s to get rid of you, isn´t it?? But Vader gives him the ultimate price...

[Cobra]

That's strange... when I first played FS1 I didn't noticed the Ace, I noticed him only when I installed FSPort 2.3... (so... I took 8 years to realize that there was an Ace in that mission  )

You didn't hear the enemy arrival music?

Thats just the way I like it.
Getting killed ina few shots is the way to go - you have to FEAR your enemy.

what scares me is that I can see the logic behind your statement.

[Freespace Freak]

This is what I always did.  I would go to each area where an enemy wing is located, and make sure I have my wingmates with me, and eliminate them all one by one.  Then I'd make sure they're all with me (not getting reloaded or something) and slowly go for the ace.  When he's targetable, I have my wingmates attack him, unload a few MX-50's and then dodge and weave like crazy.  After a few seconds, he'll be too worried about all your team mates attacking him then he will about attacking you.  Then you just help your teammates polish him off and you're done.

[Dark Hunter]

Am I the only one who's found dogfighting Vasudans to be much harder than dogfighting Shivans (exception: SF Dragons)? They always seem to be hellishly fast compared to Shivans, and really good at dodging, something that Shivans (exception: SF Dragon) seem to be deficient in....

Also their capships have always seemed more accurate...

[vyper]

As much as I love FS, and I enjoyed FS1 I always thought the GTA got shields far too quickly. It made it more interesting trying to avoid being tailed in a dogfight.

[Freespace Freak]

As much as I love FS, and I enjoyed FS1 I always thought the GTA got shields far too quickly. It made it more interesting trying to avoid being tailed in a dogfight.

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[achtung]

I always just shot him down.......

[Cobra]

was it always on easy?

[achtung]

was it always on easy?

No, it's more like I drug my wingmen with me

[Dysko]

That's strange... when I first played FS1 I didn't noticed the Ace, I noticed him only when I installed FSPort 2.3... (so... I took 8 years to realize that there was an Ace in that mission  )

You didn't hear the enemy arrival music?

I played it on another PC, and I couldn't hear sounds because the sound card was broken... :
Then I bought FS2 and stopped playing FS1 until I found this forum when I changed the PC. Now I can't find anymore FS1 in my CDs...

[Cobra]

Meh.

Anyway, this is hilarious. I just played FSPort. I got to the Ace part, fired off my MX-50's, dodged the enemy MX-50's, and I never got a shot at him after that. My wingmen took him out so fast I didn't know what happened.

[Freespace Freak]

Yep, that's the way to do it.  If you try on Insane and do the same without the wingmen, he'll take you out so fast you also won't even what happened, again.

[Cobra]

Yep, that's the way to do it.  If you try on Insane and do the same without the wingmen, he'll take you out so fast you also won't even what happened, again.

In FS1 I was playing on medium.

[Freespace Freak]

Yep, that's the way to do it.  If you try on Insane and do the same without the wingmen, he'll take you out so fast you also won't even what happened, again.

In FS1 I was playing on medium.

Which is why those wingmen are Very Necessary.  If anything to distract the Ace while you kill it.