[aldo_14]

Then make your own NightmareCruiser.Let's "enlarge" the Nightmare fleet,

[Snail]

Not everyone knows about your hatred of your own creation.....

[aldo_14]

Not everyone knows about your hatred of your own creation.....

I hate what is ****.

[Mobius]

?

[Snail]

The Nightmares are, granted, quite ugly, but Aldo can't say anything when they're being used with the Abel and the Cyone.

[Dark Hunter]

True, very true.

[Snail]

And the Vinaashak was originally a Nightmare jug, IIRC.

[Dark Hunter]

It was...?

*Dark Hunter suddenly sees the resemblance*

Yeah... I never noticed that before...

I say the Nightmare Destroyer is quite powerful enough on its own though... *shudders at the thought of the Vinashaak armed with upgraded Nightmare beams*

[Snail]

Shudders to think of the Nightmare Sath Gigas.

[Mobius]

Nightmare ships aren't ugly.

They're like the Lindos:you love and hate them at the same time.

[Snail]

They are ugly. The textures are ugly, and the models look demented. Look at the Nightmare Carrier, that one's the worst.

[Mobius]

You haven't got it. The words ugly and beautiful are meaningless in this case. Nightmare ships have that odd design and we must accept that. Alien ships aren't supposed to be always cool.

The original Nightmares ships were old...the same is for their textures.

[Snail]

True, true, but IMO they're still pretty ugly and you can't change my mind about that.

[spartan_0214]

IMHO, spaceships aren't meant to be pretty. They're supposed to be worn, battered, and, occasionally, wartorn. That doesn't mean you shouldn't put stock in style. The Nightmare ships (and the old Shivan ships from FS1) are designed to give you that spooky feeling. In the tv series Firefly, the Reaver ships are designed to scare the living daylights out of you. Serenity's cargo bay is square. Wonder why? You can store more cargo in a box than you can in a pyramid or sphere.

[Dark Hunter]

Some of the newer ships from FS2 gave that feeling too. The Sathanas is, in my mind, the epitome of Shivan might. It looks scary. That's all there is to it. I nearly had a heart attack when I hit the DIVE DIVE DIVE scene, and the dream sequence in Derelict really freaked me out the first time.

The Colossus too fits my image of a Terran juggernaut. I think if they were to build a 6km ship it would really look something like that.


The Nightmares are designed to be weird. Not scary, I don't think, but just utterly alien. They're dark, which is rare in FS; do they even have a single glowmap? The spines on them make them more alien than any Shivan ship I've seen yet.

[aldo_14]

You haven't got it. The words ugly and beautiful are meaningless in this case. Nightmare ships have that odd design and we must accept that. Alien ships aren't supposed to be always cool.

The original Nightmares ships were old...the same is for their textures.

Yes, they are old and ****.  And cliched.

The ideal Nightmare ship is not black, nor spiky, but an amorphous glowing blob that folds and envelops like a splash of mercury.

[Mobius]

4 against 1. We won.

[Snail]

Granted, the Nightmare ships are a cool concept, just badly executed. The maps were the main thing.

[aldo_14]

4 against 1. We won.

Using that methodology, Big Brother has more artistic value than Picassos' Guernica.

[Col. Fishguts]

4 against 1. We won.

The creator's opinion wins by default. You lose.