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Offline Ashrak

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Crikey.
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Offline vyper

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Bally! :p This is serious, US going Nazi stuff.

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**** me. Well, one things for sure, I dont think this is going to help the Republicans in the upcomming elections, which is a good thing. I hope.
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Screw impeaching him, looks like deposing him is the only safe bet.
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Offline Mefustae

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It's not that bad, is it? I mean, if another Katrina hits an American state hard, wouldn't it be a plus that the President can declare Martial Law at the drop of a hat and prevent pandemonium from reigning supreme?

 

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yeah because that's the only thing this neofascist administration would use it for
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Except he's about to go out of office. I'm not quite sure why he's doing this, and I don't think the Republicans are stupid enough to declare martial law on contested states in the next election.
And I'm sure if this is actually used out of context (say, declaring martial law for some stupid cause) - the states would go completely bonkers.

 

Offline Kazan

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he's about to go out of office? wha?? next presidential election is 2008
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So, what would happen if he declared Martial Law in heavily democratic states during the election?

 

Offline Unknown Target

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he's about to go out of office? wha?? next presidential election is 2008

That's "about to". And if this next senate/house election follows the predictons, those last two years are going to be a lame duck, because he couldn't get anything through a D-controled congress.

And Mefustae: Most likely: States will sue, *****, moan, and threaten until it's undone. Then everyone hates Republicans for a very long time.
Very likely: No one will care and it will continue as long as the election is.
Less likely: Civil war?

 

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he's about to go out of office? wha?? next presidential election is 2008

That's "about to". And if this next senate/house election follows the predictons, those last two years are going to be a lame duck, because he couldn't get anything through a D-controled congress.

yes he could... he could get an indictment for treason through a d-controlled congress :D
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Doubt it. And the Dems (I hope) wouldn't be stupid enough to do it while he was still in the Presidency. Bill Clinton Mk 2, anyone? All of America would basically see it as a betrayel and Capitol Hill party squabbling - which would tarnish the Dems high ground in this fight.

  

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So, what would happen if he declared Martial Law in heavily democratic states during the election?

There is a basic impracticality to it; he would have to do so early enough to stop voting, it would be reported on CNN, and voter turnout would in all likelyhood soar...against him. Or Congress would throw his ass out of office. Under those circumstances I don't think the Republican Party would back his play. So, it's suicide even if it actually gets that far. Which it may very well not.

Put simply, such an action would be blatantly wrong and certainly violate the spirit if not the letter of the oath everyone who joins up swears at some point. The military, in the august persons of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, doesn't like Bush much anyways. They may refuse to carry it out. Even assuming they do, declaring martial law requires troops...and the only practical options in most democratic states are National Guard troops already in place. Who are even more likely to refuse to carry out such orders, since they adminstratively "belong" to the state. It's happened once in US history already, over the enforcement of Brown v. Board of Education. So at the least the troops would have to be shipped in from elsewhere, which takes time. The vote would probably go forward and be done before it could be effectively implemented, or by the time the vote would take place Bush would have been tossed from the steps of the White House. Take your pick.
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There is a basic impracticality to it; he would have to do so early enough to stop voting, it would be reported on CNN, and voter turnout would in all likelyhood soar...against him.


Then again if there was a big, invented emergency, there would be no uproar.
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he's about to go out of office? wha?? next presidential election is 2008

That's "about to". And if this next senate/house election follows the predictons, those last two years are going to be a lame duck, because he couldn't get anything through a D-controled congress.

yes he could... he could get an indictment for treason through a d-controlled congress :D

No he couldn't.

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    Section 3: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

    The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

bye bye treason meme
lol wtf

 

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he's about to go out of office? wha?? next presidential election is 2008

That's "about to". And if this next senate/house election follows the predictons, those last two years are going to be a lame duck, because he couldn't get anything through a D-controled congress.

yes he could... he could get an indictment for treason through a d-controlled congress :D

No he couldn't.

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    Section 3: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

    The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

bye bye treason meme

edit: this thread is completely full of hyperbole, maniac speculation and weak fascist comparisons, even for a leftist european this  is pretty ridiculous.
lol wtf