[Iron Wolf]

Not sure if this goes here... it involves changing the weapons load-out on the Aeolus cruiser, but it's done using the FRED system of changing weapons (select ship> weapons).

Any who, I've came up with the idea of improving the Aeolus cruiser by replacing those utterly useless SGreens on it and replacing the "Terran Huge Turrets" with fighter weapons (eg. Maxim, Kayser, Subach)

The current version I have is armed with two SVas Beam cannons, and Maxim cannons in the laser turrets. However, seeing the effectiveness of slashing beams, I’ve been wondering if I should use the Terslash beams or the VSlash beams instead. Also, the maxim cannons work well in ship vs. ship combat, disabling turrets and causing a fair amount of damage... but I'm not sure how they fair in the anti-fighter department.

Thoughts? Should I go with slashers and create a mini-Sobek? Should I remove the maxims and put something else there?

[Mars]

If you want it to be balanced near where the deimos is, I'd say that TerSlashers and Prometheus S turrets would be good.

[Iron Wolf]

If you want it to be balanced near where the deimos is, I'd say that TerSlashers and Prometheus S turrets would be good.

Hmm, but do you think Terslashers are "small enough" to fit onto an aeolus? I mean, sure I can say they are, but I kept it to a Vasudan small beam to keep in with "size"

[Mars]

Honestly I'd say that svas's are too good, maybe make a smaller looking terslash

[Iron Wolf]

Honestly I'd say that svas's are too good, maybe make a smaller looking terslash

I'm not talking the size of the beam, but the physical weapon intself. Of coruse, I belive the Fenris has a TerSlash, so this Improved Aeolus should be able to mount one (or two) as well...

What about the SVas's being tood good?

[Mars]

No, the TerSlash, though it has more damage than the svas, is far less accurate.

The Fenris has an LTerSlash (worst beam in the game IMO)

I think your best bet is to increase the fireing rate of the SGreen to that it's more on par (sustained damage / second) with the svas and sred

[Iron Wolf]

No, the TerSlash, though it has more damage than the svas, is far less accurate.

The Fenris has an LTerSlash (worst beam in the game IMO)

I think your best bet is to increase the fireing rate of the SGreen to that it's more on par (sustained damage / second) with the svas and sred

So, why not go with just a SVas... I can see the vasudans pitching in on this post-capella, as long as they got some. ( seeing as how the Vasudans lack any sort of powerful attack cruiser).

And how would I increase the fire rate of the SGreen?

[Mars]

You would add a file called sgreenrate-wep.tbm to your data/tables folder and add:
#Primary Weapons:
$Name: SGreen
+nocreate
$Fire Wait: (I'm not sure what the exact value should be... that requires time and energy go to the wiki and look up the fs2 weapons comparison table and figure out how to get the
#End

This could be wrong, we shall see.

[Snail]

By the way, try using a combo of Prometheus S, Flak Guns and Morning Stars!!

As you fly in to attack, those Morning Stars will push you back as the Prometheus S's and Flak Guns blow your hull away. If there's space also keep those AAAf guns. That will be hell for any fighter or bomber to attack. Everybody underestimates the power of Morning Stars, especially when there are a lot of them.

As for the SGreen, I believe the SVas is better than the TerSlash in a way, as they are far more accurate and TerSlash is terrible against smaller targets, and often misses.

[asyikarea51]

What about the Kayer?

Or is the Kayser not considered because it's an "experimental" weapon and stuff?

[Mad Bomber]

Kaysers are expensive. Besides, Prom-S has longer range by 600m or so.

[Snail]

Perhaps using a combo of Morning Stars, Kaysers and Maxims would suffice.

You know, it is possible to make even the Watchdog deadly by placing about fifteen of them, giving ten Morning Stars, and give five Maxims. That would easily be a devastating defensive perimiter. One of the only ways to get through would be to use Trebs or other long-range weapons, but the Maxims are LR as well so you've gotta get something better. I've tried that and it took about two waves of six Hercules' to get through the defense and kill the cargo.

[Iron Wolf]

By the way, try using a combo of Prometheus S, Flak Guns and Morning Stars!!

As you fly in to attack, those Morning Stars will push you back as the Prometheus S's and Flak Guns blow your hull away. If there's space also keep those AAAf guns. That will be hell for any fighter or bomber to attack. Everybody underestimates the power of Morning Stars, especially when there are a lot of them.

That's what i've been trying, but it doesn't work as well because I’m putting the Morning star and Prometheus-S in turrets that were originally meant for the "blob" lasers. This gives only one weapon covering the top arc, and the bottom another. Should I sacrifice some flak guns?

[Taristin]

Ive always thought the Aeolus was excellent for what it was; an escort/fighter-killing cruiser. It's not a corvette, so why should it be armed like/as powerfully one?

[Iron Wolf]

Ive always thought the Aeolus was excellent for what it was; an escort/fighter-killing cruiser. It's not a corvette, so why should it be armed like/as powerfully one?

With that idea, perhaps we should just replace the beam cannons with Anti-fighter beams?

Putting two small vasudan beams will not suddenly turn it into a corvette. We gave up on the slashy beams, and now I'm figureing out the best configuration for anti-fighter work.

[Taristin]

No, replacing them with anti-fighter beams would make the vessel absolutely defenseless to larger vessels. My comment was aimed at the comment above about making the Aeolus into a mini-Sobek. The Aeolus wasn't meant to be a cap-ship killer, IMO. Perhaps the beams could have been strengthened a wee bit, but there's a horrible tendency in this community to make a single vessel that is the Alpha 1 of the fleet, able to destroy any target it faces... Not saying thats whats happening here, but I fear it may slip into that later >..>;

[Iron Wolf]

No, replacing them with anti-fighter beams would make the vessel absolutely defenseless to larger vessels. My comment was aimed at the comment above about making the Aeolus into a mini-Sobek. The Aeolus wasn't meant to be a cap-ship killer, IMO. Perhaps the beams could have been strengthened a wee bit, but there's a horrible tendency in this community to make a single vessel that is the Alpha 1 of the fleet, able to destroy any target it faces... Not saying thats whats happening here, but I fear it may slip into that later >..>;

No worry about that happening... I was just asking if anyone though you could fit TerSlash or VSlash beams on a ship as small as an aeolus.

[Iron Wolf]

 

Bumping this because I didn't get ideas on how to work the anti-fighter defences (in terms of laser cannons).

Prometheus S's?
Maxims?
Morning stars?

Any combo of the above?

[Scooby_Doo]

Put tachyon turret on it 

[Iron Wolf]

Put tachyon turret on it 

a wha?