Author Topic: Non-lethal weapon that makes tasers look like nothing. (Read 9436 times)

Rictor · **on:** December 05, 2006, 02:31:38 pm

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/nonlethal-gun-makes-you-wish-you-were-shot-with-bfg-219370.php

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It took 10 years and a $40 million budget to make, but the Air Force has unveiled a new weapon it calls the Active Denial System. It's a nonlethal weapon that has been certified for use in Iraq as a means of crowd control. The ADS shoots a beam of high intensity millimeter waves, which in plain English means if you get in the beam's way, it'll feel like you're being dipped in lava. In fact, the pain is so intense, that the longest any human test subject could withstand the beam was 5 seconds, and a very small number of them walked away with redness and blisters from the beam's intense heat. (I'm sure they'll also develop tails and super powers from the beam's side effects as well).

Can't we just stick to normal guns? Because "non-lethal" weapons just promote abuse and over-use by trigger happy ****heads (see UCLA incident) who know they can get away home free because no permanent damage is (usually) done. I prefer normal, phyisical pain from a bullet or baton to high-tech pain that uses technology to make your existance as agonizing as possible.

Coming soon to a campus/protest/mall/prison/Gitmo/school near you.

aldo_14 · **Reply #1 on:** December 05, 2006, 02:33:10 pm

AFAIK, under the US guidelines they can use this on prisoners without it being torture........

Ghostavo · **Reply #2 on:** December 05, 2006, 02:51:37 pm

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I'm curious as to what happens with other objects. If you are wearing an aluminum outfit would it still get ya? If not, lets mount these on the front of police cars or chase helicopters and blast the car in the high speed chase. Over the loud speaker say, 'Pull over or we turn your nuts into microwave popcorn'

Ace · **Reply #3 on:** December 05, 2006, 03:30:25 pm

Your agonizer please...

Fineus · **Reply #4 on:** December 05, 2006, 04:01:03 pm

I know this is slightly off the topic but it has a point to it so bear with me..

..but you know EMP weapons? I don't know precisely how they work but how come they don't affect the electrical impulses in our own bodies - but they do affect electronics?

Unknown Target · **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2006, 04:05:34 pm

That's a good question. Maybe it's because since EMP devices work by overloading circuits with an electrical charge, and since humans don't have any conduit or charge-holding electronic cells that are able to be overloaded, they don't effect us?

watsisname · **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2006, 05:56:20 pm

Precisely. As the EM-wave passes through a circuit, it induces a current within the circuit that overloads it. This happens because a circuit is a closed loop, and the charges in the circuit will experience a force as the EM field changes, thus causing the current in the circuit to change. The change in current vs. change in time is proportional to the area enclosed by the loop (among other factors), and the rate of change (flux) of the EM field. With a strong enough flux, like say, from an EMP, a circuit can easily overload and be ruined, or the electronic device attached to the circuit can be rendered useless as well.

Now I'm not totally sure about how the nerual connections in our brains work, but if they make closed loops, then I think they're simply too small and not able to carry enough charge (or carry charge in quite the same way) as a typical circuit, so they don't respond to EMP like electronics do.

Bobboau · **Reply #7 on:** December 05, 2006, 05:59:48 pm

our nerves aren't prone to induced currents (not as much as solid pure metal anyway)

our nerves work via a complex combination of electrical and chemical intereactions.

Fineus · **Reply #8 on:** December 05, 2006, 06:04:24 pm

Ahh I see.

And there I was thinking I had cleverly invented a way to wipe whole populations off the map whilst leaving their homes, factories and so on intact.

I suppose I'm glad it doesn't work that way!

Mefustae · **Reply #9 on:** December 05, 2006, 07:23:57 pm

Quote from: Kalfireth on December 05, 2006, 06:04:24 pm

Ahh I see.

And there I was thinking I had cleverly invented a way to wipe whole populations off the map whilst leaving their homes, factories and so on intact.

I suppose I'm glad it doesn't work that way!

Neutron Bomb ftw.

On a side note, i'd be interested in seeing if this weapon would still be effective from orbit. Would be one hell of an effective area-denial weapon.

Bobboau · **Reply #10 on:** December 05, 2006, 07:29:34 pm

the Painstar!

wtf_cl0vvn · **Reply #11 on:** December 05, 2006, 09:31:46 pm

Well, though EM pulse does not really affect humans so far as to kill them, people who have had their heads inside strong magnetic fields have noticed flashes of light in their field of vision if they move their heads about.

I believe this happened to astronauts as they passed through magnetic fields...

spartan_0214 · **Reply #12 on:** December 05, 2006, 10:12:29 pm

EMPs (electro-magnetic pulses) CAN kill humans. It just takes a really big charge to hurt us....

ToecrusherHammerjaw · **Reply #13 on:** December 05, 2006, 10:42:20 pm

Wouldn't need that much of a charge to get somebody if they had a PaceMaker....

Hippo · **Reply #14 on:** December 05, 2006, 11:12:13 pm

Too bad its a rendered image with grass hastily thrown in the background, and it's not coming from a certified Raytheon source...

NGTM-1R · **Reply #15 on:** December 05, 2006, 11:29:02 pm

Hippo ftw.

Flipside · **Reply #16 on:** December 06, 2006, 05:00:29 pm

Well, if you check out the original news item, there are more pictures...

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72134-0.html?tw=rss.index

And yes, I saw something about this a while ago, and it looks extremely worrying to be honest.

Nuke · **Reply #17 on:** December 07, 2006, 05:48:08 am

oooooo remote controlled torture, i need one of theese for my basement

spartan_0214 · **Reply #18 on:** December 07, 2006, 06:11:07 pm

Quote from: Nuke on December 07, 2006, 05:48:08 am

oooooo remote controlled torture, i need one of theese for my basement

Quest_techie · **Reply #19 on:** December 07, 2006, 09:08:13 pm

torturing people to keep them out of places, wow

chemical weapons to keep people from getting out of line, galvinization to keep the masses subdued, and now millimeter wave pain induction at range

gotta love mans ingenuity

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