[Mars]

Real blizzards are fun, if rather painful to dig out of.

[Dark Hunter]

No one can possibly blame this on global warming. While most of you used to getting snow right now are ice-free, New Mexico (which never gets snow) is one nightmare of a snowstorm. Our tempertatures are the lowest they've been in some five or six years, and the interstate just closed completely down due to ice. Our transportation crews are getting a workout they haven't had in a very long time...


So all of you who want snow: please take it away from us!

[IceFire]

No one can possibly blame this on global warming. While most of you used to getting snow right now are ice-free, New Mexico (which never gets snow) is one nightmare of a snowstorm. Our tempertatures are the lowest they've been in some five or six years, and the interstate just closed completely down due to ice. Our transportation crews are getting a workout they haven't had in a very long time...


So all of you who want snow: please take it away from us!

Actually...all of that speaks to global warming.  So I'm a bit confused by your statement.

This is down right unnatural weather were having.  Its January 1st, 2007...and there hasn't been more than a trace amount of snow on the ground in souther ontario.  Aside from last year this is unprecedented.

[WeatherOp]

No one can possibly blame this on global warming. While most of you used to getting snow right now are ice-free, New Mexico (which never gets snow) is one nightmare of a snowstorm. Our tempertatures are the lowest they've been in some five or six years, and the interstate just closed completely down due to ice. Our transportation crews are getting a workout they haven't had in a very long time...


So all of you who want snow: please take it away from us!

Actually...all of that speaks to global warming.  So I'm a bit confused by your statement.

This is down right unnatural weather were having.  Its January 1st, 2007...and there hasn't been more than a trace amount of snow on the ground in souther ontario.  Aside from last year this is unprecedented.

Well, if things happen like are expecting, you coudl really get your wish mid-month.

[DrewToby]

Here in Michigan we got almost an inch back in mid-October.

Of course, there is nothing here right now. It sucks, too because it's just above freezing.

I live in Michigan too... High for Detroit area is like 52 today. I think I'll take a walk. 

Whoa, I'm in Michigan too! xD And not too far from Detroit, at that. Far enough to not be Detroit, but close enough to make jokes about DE-troit. ...*cough* Sorry, had to say it.

I miss the white stuff. ;_; We need some snow. Not just for snow days, but for ...well, yes, for snow days.

[Flipside]

The UK hasn't had a white Christmas for something like 40 years now. It's wierd to think my Grandparents used to skate on the Thames. That said though, when Ceaser invaded the UK in early AD, he described a land of Vineyards, and our summers are too cold for those without greenhouses these days.

Even the UK, which is famous for it's fascination with talking about the weather, doesn't have accurate records of temperatures more than 100 years old. So whether there are mini-cycles and just how much affect Global warming or dipping is having, I really couldn't even begin to guess.

[Huggybaby]

when Ceaser invaded the UK in early AD, he described a land of Vineyards, and our summers are too cold for those without greenhouses these days.

Flipside QFT.

Of course the planet is warmer...because the sun is warmer.
http://www.handpen.com/Bio/sun_freaks.html
http://www.john-daly.com/solar/solar.htm
etc.

We're also still coming out of the last ice age.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

Of course, humans are good at seeing patterns. But because you see a pattern over a couple of years doesn't qualify you to judge a cycle that takes hundreds. That's called junk science. Seems to me Greenland was pretty green for the vikings, I wonder what happened? Oh yeah, global cooling.

I remember back in the days of Rachel Carson's Silent Spring (holy crap that book did a lot of damage) we were all going to freeze to death and the oceans were supposed to be empty long ago. I wonder what happened? IT'S A FAD!

Unfortunately the term "global warming" has come to mean "global warming is caused by man and it's going to kill everybody so politicians must spend more of our money". I'm calling Bull**** on that. Hey wait, someone already did.

What about the sea is rising because glaciers are melting?

Because of the limited geographic coverage of these records, it is not obvious whether the apparent decadal fluctuations represent true variations in global sea level or merely variations across regions that are not resolved.

Statistics lie folks, especially when someone has an agenda.

I say relax and plant some vegetables. If you've got to have the snow, you can always move where there is some. 

[übermetroid]

Where do you live in Canada?  I live right here a couple of dozen miles south of the Canadian-American border, and we've had no snow at all.  It was almost 50 a few hours ago.

I ****ing love it too.

What?  Where do you live? I live about 2 hours south of canadistan and we at least have some snow.  Maybe only an inch, and it is melting, but we do have some snow. 

[Darius]

Floods and monsoon rains here in Singapore 

[achtung]

http://www.handpen.com/Bio/sun_freaks.html

How did they get information on sunspots for the period between 1600-1750?

[Huggybaby]

I don't know that, but it was certainly possible to observe. They knew how to make pinhole cameras and colored glass back then.

You may also be familiar with this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism.

It's tempting to think that science has just been discovered, but since the Library at Alexandria was burned we don't have a clue what man has already discovered and forgotten. It's arguable that men 3000 years ago were a lot smarter than men today.

[Flipside]

Gallileo was obsessed with the sun, iirc, he damaged one of his eyes by looking at it through a telescope, and ended up inventing the projection system that most people use today. He was born in 1594 so the dates given seem about right.

Oddly enough, the Chinese knew about sunspots in 50BC, but it wasn't till Gallileo gave an explanation in 1612 that anyone had an idea what they were.

[Mongoose]

At least with regards to the eastern half of North America, the real culprit at the present time for these unseasonably warm temperatures is a rather stubborn southern high that's circulating warm air up from the Gulf.  The jet stream is also at a very high latitude right now, which means that any systems that do move across the continent shoot way up and give us rain instead of snow.  Combine that with El Nino, and you have a rather warm situation at the moment.  I'd imagine that something similar applies for Europe, as well.  However, as a few meteorologists have said, Mother Nature has a way for paying you back, so I'm sure we'll all be freezing our asses off in a few weeks.

[Rictor]

Apparently in Europe it's the warmest winter in 500 years. All the ski resorts in the Alps are being forced to advertise hiking tours and whatnot to draw in tourists. "No global warming" my hairy ass.

I think it's pretty clear that the real culprit here is Manbearpig. Quick, go find Al Gore so we can end this menace once and for all!

[spartan_0214]

Just an update:

Colorado     - Everywhere from Vail to the Easern Plains, we got dumped: 30 inches, 2 blizzards, 8 days

                                  Snowshovel - $20      Snowblower - $100        Sliding around in an All Wheel Drive - Priceless


New Mexico - Even the Rio Grande Valley got snow, we got dumped too: 11 inches, ONE blizzard, 2 days

[Mars]

I'm sick of Snow here in Colorado. It's next to the streets, covering the sidewalks and the bus stops, generally in about three feet of dirty snow.

[spartan_0214]

Hey, good news Mars:

There's a new storm front coming in...

[IceFire]

I'm sick of Snow here in Colorado. It's next to the streets, covering the sidewalks and the bus stops, generally in about three feet of dirty snow.

I think you guys stole our snow...thats what we normally have...ever winter. Except this one and the last one and a few before that.

[Mongoose]

Would you mind passing some of that stuff eastward, Mars?  I'm sick to death of this sixty-degree bull****.  If I wanted weather like this, I'd move to (God forbid) Florida.  Gimme back my winter, dammit!

[Nix]

Just when I thought Winter had eluded us over in Nevada, we get dumped on at least 6-8 inches all over town, and it's still coming down, lightly as of right now. 
Impressive.. how Winter can come back and slug you in the gut without warning.