[aldo_14]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6250511.stm

[Rictor]

I don't even like Apple, in fact I actively dislike them, but I have to admit that the iPhone looks really slick. Except the price, of course, for which you could buy a good-sized town in India.

[Centrixo]

typical, that what you get in america everyday. i feel sorry for the people who have to watch this crap before they can get thier hands on the item.

any company in america wants to get thier item out before anyone elses that includes stealing and adding a little plastic to it with a company logo, i dont see the sense in it other than money.

[aldo_14]

typical, that what you get in america everyday. i feel sorry for the people who have to watch this crap before they can get thier hands on the item.

any company in america wants to get thier item out before anyone elses that includes stealing and adding a little plastic to it with a company logo, i dont see the sense in it other than money.

Sorry?  Not sure what you mean, but (if this is relevant to what I think you're implying) Cisco has 'held' the iPhone trademark since 1996 (albeit by buying the original owner);

(nicked off the corporate interweb)

Yesterday during the MacWorld Apple user conference in San Francisco, Apple introduced a new product under the iPhone name. The iPhone trademark belongs to Cisco, not just in the United States, but in Europe as well, and in fact Cisco has been marketing products under the iPhone name.

Apple had approached Cisco many times to acquire rights to use the mark, acknowleding Cisco’s rights to the trademark. As you know, our culture is one of supporting and promoting open industry standards and collaborating with other companies that produce innovations and technology that ultimately benefit customers. We entered into negotiations with Apple in good faith and with the full intention of finding a way for the two companies to share Cisco’s iPhone trademark. There is no doubt that Apple’s new phone is very exciting, but they should not be using our trademark without our permission.

Today Cisco has filed a lawsuit in the United States District Court against Apple seeking to prevent Apple from using Cisco’s registered iPhone trademark. The trademark, which we hold, dates back to 1996, before Apple had shipped iMacs or iPods. Cisco itself has owned this trademark since 2000 with its acquisition of InfoGear, which has shipped iPhone products for a number of years. Linksys iPhone began using the iPhone name on its products last spring.

Today’s iPhone is not tomorrow’s iPhone. The potential for convergence of the home phone, cell phone, work phone and PC is limitless, which is why the protection of Cisco’s brands is of paramount importance to our business. The action we have taken today is about protecting our intellectual property and our brands by standing up to business practices that are intentionally undertaken with no respect for the rights of others.

[Centrixo]

you heard what i said, now im done .

[aldo_14]

you heard what i said, now im done .

I couldn't make heads nor tails of what I heard....

(for reference, the iMac wasn't even announced until 1998, postdating the existence of the iPhone name as used by InfoGear from 1996; so if you're suggestion is 'anyone elses that includes stealing and adding a little plastic to it with a company logo' means that Cisco/Linksys 'stole' the name, it's horribly wrong)

[Bobboau]

well I have a lot of stock in cisco so I hope apple burns in hell.

[Ulala]

Cool phone, how much for it?

[aldo_14]

Cool phone, how much for it?

The apple one?  Apparently $499 or so.

EDIT; according to the Register "A 4GB iPhone will cost $499 with a two year contract and the 8GB will be $599. Cingular has entered in to a "multi-year" exclusive partnership in the US. Jobs didn't identify what carriers it planned to work with overseas."

Apparently, also, Apple has 'borrowed' another trademarked name - Visual voicemail, which is the name of an existing Citrix application used on, yup, Ciscos' iPhones.

[brozozo]

I'm not impressed. Don't we have phones that can do all, barring touch screen, that the iPhone does?

[Agent_Koopa]

The touch screen is certainly impressive, with multi-input capability... but it retails for....


599 US dollars![/Kaz Hirai]

[Starkweather]

Hmm, iPhone or ps3? Really not sure, though I hate both of the ideas , I have a plan with cingular, but hell if I'd go for 2 years. Wii ftw. Back on topic anyway, Cisco seems correct I'll have to look into it further, but my braces are SERIOUSLY hurting me now, and I have to eat dinner, I might be out for awhile, cover my back men.

[Mongoose]

Can I counter-counter-sue to forbid the use of the asinine "i" tag before any tech product name that's trying to be trendy?

[Turey]

Can I counter-counter-sue to forbid the use of the asinine "i" tag before any tech product name that's trying to be trendy?

We could make it a class-action lawsuit, from the US Citizens of HLP!

[Turnsky]

coming soon: Apple iLawsuit 

[Harbinger of DOOM]

lmfao, but c'mon guys lay off Apple......... I mean.... Macs aren't so bad (In fact I'm typing this post with one) *prepares for ass-whoopin*

[WMCoolmon]

From what I've observed, OS X is a far more mature alternative to Windows than Linux is, and in many ways, is a far better operating system than Windows. Apple's mantra has always been ease of use, and that's something that should appeal to power user and novice user alike.

[aldo_14]

lmfao, but c'mon guys lay off Apple......... I mean.... Macs aren't so bad (In fact I'm typing this post with one) *prepares for ass-whoopin*

It's hard to have sympathy for a company that tries to trademark 'pod'...

[kode]

... or, you know, infringe on a trademark on purpose. and one that cisco owns, no less. had it smaller company, apple would've acquired for the name, methinks, but cisco virtually runs the internet...

[Unknown Target]

From what I've observed, OS X is a far more mature alternative to Windows than Linux is, and in many ways, is a far better operating system than Windows. Apple's mantra has always been ease of use, and that's something that should appeal to power user and novice user alike.

Except most of the time, I've found, that it serves to aggravate and cut out users who actually know what they're doing with a computer.