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What browser do YOU use?

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Re: What browser do YOU use?
Reply #80 on: February 10, 2007, 06:58:49 am
Actually, it is possible to build a website that works in Firefox, not in IE. You simply have to have a page with a sufficiently complex layout, code strictly according to web standards, and avoid using any of the CSS or Javascript hacks that might be needed in order to get it to display properly in IE, which doesn't support web standards.

(Strictly speaking, Firefox actually does have Firefox-specific web code, but it's all prefixed with "-moz".)
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Re: What browser do YOU use?
Reply #81 on: February 12, 2007, 01:01:47 am
webmasters go about it the wrong way. one should design for opera, and then it usually works in both ff and ie, with only minor tweaks needed in other cases. unless you're using xslt and stuff like that, which didn't work the last time I tried, but then again I haven't completely upgraded to O9 yet either.
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Re: What browser do YOU use?
Reply #82 on: February 12, 2007, 01:07:57 am
Quote from: kode on February 12, 2007, 01:01:47 am
webmasters go about it the wrong way. one should design for opera, and then it usually works in both ff and ie, with only minor tweaks needed in other cases. unless you're using xslt and stuff like that, which didn't work the last time I tried, but then again I haven't completely upgraded to O9 yet either.
Good grief... isn't there some kind of open standard that all browsers support?  If not, there should be.  I do notice that hard-light.net looks different in FF, IE, and AOL Explorer (the last one I can't figure out; it's supposed to be just a slight mod off of IE's engine!)
 

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Re: What browser do YOU use?
Reply #83 on: February 12, 2007, 08:27:38 am
Quote from: jr2 on February 12, 2007, 01:07:57 am
Quote from: kode on February 12, 2007, 01:01:47 am
webmasters go about it the wrong way. one should design for opera, and then it usually works in both ff and ie, with only minor tweaks needed in other cases. unless you're using xslt and stuff like that, which didn't work the last time I tried, but then again I haven't completely upgraded to O9 yet either.
Good grief... isn't there some kind of open standard that all browsers support?  If not, there should be.  I do notice that hard-light.net looks different in FF, IE, and AOL Explorer (the last one I can't figure out; it's supposed to be just a slight mod off of IE's engine!)

well, there are standards, but they're just like road speed limits. that is, suggestions. ;)
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Re: What browser do YOU use?
Reply #84 on: February 12, 2007, 08:37:17 am
I browse using Notepad and interpret the HTML neurally.
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Re: What browser do YOU use?
Reply #85 on: February 12, 2007, 08:52:18 am
Quote from: IPAndrews on February 12, 2007, 08:37:17 am
I browse using Notepad and interpret the HTML neurally.
... You mean Notepad++?
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Re: What browser do YOU use?
Reply #86 on: February 12, 2007, 10:57:03 am
Quote from: IPAndrews on February 12, 2007, 08:37:17 am
I browse using Notepad and interpret the HTML neurally.

whoa, that's probably true. me, I've got a friend who describes the internet for me. I imagine it's a bit like blondes and dinosaurs throwing a birthday party.
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Re: What browser do YOU use?
Reply #87 on: February 12, 2007, 02:28:26 pm
Quote from: jr2 on February 12, 2007, 01:07:57 am
Quote from: kode on February 12, 2007, 01:01:47 am
webmasters go about it the wrong way. one should design for opera, and then it usually works in both ff and ie, with only minor tweaks needed in other cases. unless you're using xslt and stuff like that, which didn't work the last time I tried, but then again I haven't completely upgraded to O9 yet either.
Good grief... isn't there some kind of open standard that all browsers support?  If not, there should be.  I do notice that hard-light.net looks different in FF, IE, and AOL Explorer (the last one I can't figure out; it's supposed to be just a slight mod off of IE's engine!)

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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
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