[Black Wolf]

Harpy class gunship. 100m long, 3 AAf, 2 Flak, 2 Prom R turrets plus a set of shields. They're bastards to attack in a fighter, and can take down cruisers in groups. Corvettes pretty much rape them though.

Will get released with TI.

[General Battuta]

And now I want to play TI.

I just want to add that the Kurgen was a papa-oscar-sierra.  Seriously, was there ever a better way for the Coalition to throw away crew? 

[Sarafan]

I just want to add that the Kurgen was a papa-oscar-sierra.  Seriously, was there ever a better way for the Coalition to throw away crew? 

Yes, there is. But the Kurgen was cool.

[Axem]

Now non-canonically

Axem's GTC Cretheus cruiser (available at Hades Combine) was a nice little gunship, it was slightly larger than a GVFr Satis, had slightly less hitpoints than a Fenris (although I think it should be about the same or higher personally) and had 5 Flak guns. If wxFred is ever introduced, and I make a campaign, I'm using that *****.

I was thinking of that ship myself, but I had thought that it mounted more AAA button-turrets, rather than the all-multi-part-flak-guns layout.

The original scheme was 6 flak and 2 anti fighter beams. I changed it to all flak because I thought the 3 aaaf shots would look sorta weird with two gun barrels. Though nothing prevents anyone from modifying the turret loadout of the ship.

[Trivial Psychic]

I was thinking of that ship myself, but I had thought that it mounted more AAA button-turrets, rather than the all-multi-part-flak-guns layout.

The original scheme was 6 flak and 2 anti fighter beams. I changed it to all flak because I thought the 3 aaaf shots would look sorta weird with two gun barrels. Though nothing prevents anyone from modifying the turret loadout of the ship.

Hence, why I mentioned the use of "button turrets" for this purpose, rather than multi-part.  Such a change would require some model work and recompilation.

[S-99]

I also forgot to mention why caseless bullets are caseless in the first place. The bullet itself doesn't have a shell of course, but the bullet is encased in it's own propellant with no bullet shell. So that's also why  no more clunky hammer on a caseless bullet gun since a different way to ignite the propellant on the bullet would be required. Guns that fire caseless bullets can very well indeed spit out more bullets a lot faster than guns with normal bullets...just waiting for a minigun that fires caseless bullets (that might be overkill on faster firing rates, but it would lead to a smaller minigun). After that caseless bullets take up less space so you can do more things like fit more bullets into a clip, and have more compact clips while you're at it.

Anyway, good call with the gunship from twisted infinities. That fills the role of picket superbly. How is TI doing these days? It's a big mod with a big margin of time and passion put into it. We'll definitely see it finished some day.

[General Battuta]

Caseless rounds are fired with an electrical charge.  Though they have all the advantages S-99 enumerated, there's also significantly higher recoil to deal with as compared to a standard round.  Not such a concern for a capital ship, fortunately.

S-99, if you think a caseless minigun is impressive, clearly you've never heard of MetalStorm.  Look it up. 

[Mars]

Metalstorm has some technical difficulties I don't see getting solved right away.

[General Battuta]

As do caseless rounds in general.  And railguns, for that matter.  And lasers.  But they're all so much fun anyway, aren't they? 

[Mars]

Suppose your right...

I wanna railgun.

[S-99]

If you can muster up a good power supply to get actual railgun velocity which is 99% the speed of light get one, of course with lower power you could get bullet speed with a railgun. Railguns use too much ****ing electricity to actually think of them as a viable weapon these days.

[General Battuta]

 

S-99, do you know any relativistic dynamics?  You could get a railgun up to 99% lightspeed, but the Lorentz dilation of its mass would mean it was...very...impractical.  We're talking really impractical.  I can walk you through the math if you want.

And it would be very stupid in atmosphere. 

Today, it's not electrical power that's the problem for railguns, it's the rails themselves.  There isn't a material that won't be wrecked by the stress involved. 

Other problems too.   

EDIT:  boosting a railgun round to 99% lightspeed involves a seven-fold increase in the projectile's mass and a corresponding sevenfold increase in power required (over that predicted by Newtonian dynamics).  Assuming it's a linear relationship between power and mass.

99.9% is a 22-fold mass increase.  It just gets worse from there on up. 

[ChronoReverse]

A bit offtopic, but I think they should mount Maxims and Morningstars on cruisers.

Use their speed to keep out of beam range.  Morningstars will keep bombers away.


It wouldn't be useful against Destroyers and up, but a cruiser isn't exactly meant to tangle with those.  But I'd imagine a cruiser with maxim guns would tear anything else up.

[Agent_Koopa]

If you can muster up a good power supply to get actual railgun velocity which is 99% the speed of light get one, of course with lower power you could get bullet speed with a railgun. Railguns use too much ****ing electricity to actually think of them as a viable weapon these days.

Almost anything fired at 99% lightspeed will almost certainly be deadly to whatever you fire it at. If you point it straight at the ground, you will make a huge crater and kill yourself as well as anyone around you. (lol unchecked physics)

[Mars]

Somewhere I heard that a Marshmallows moving at 99.99999% of the speed of light would have a yeild of 12 Castle Bravo scale explosions.

[General Battuta]

I haven't crunched the numbers, but it's definitely believable.

Of course, a handful of neutronium dropped from shoulder height will get you the same thing...

[Agent_Koopa]

Good luck getting the neutronium, and holding it at shoulder height...

[General Battuta]

Yeah, not much chance of that actually happening. 

[ChronoReverse]

Hint: it would approximately take the energy that's released when the said neutronium hits the ground.

[General Battuta]

Not to mention a hand made of something comparably dense...otherwise the neutronium would just go right through.

Heck, it'd fall through a 'solid' planet like a brick through water.