[DeepSpace9er]

If Amedinijad keeps opening his mouth and is as cavalier about displaying his nuclear progress, there might just be an Israeli attack on Iran. But like it or not, a state like Iran whose leader openly denounces the holocaust and calls for the annihilation of Israel on an almost weekly basis must not be allowed to have nukes. War is not an unnecessary social program that billions of dollars are being wasted on. War is how real problems in the world are solved, it doesnt matter how much the war costs.

[aldo_14]

If Amedinijad keeps opening his mouth and is as cavalier about displaying his nuclear progress, there might just be an Israeli attack on Iran. But like it or not, a state like Iran whose leader openly denounces the holocaust and calls for the annihilation of Israel on an almost weekly basis must not be allowed to have nukes. War is not an unnecessary social program that billions of dollars are being wasted on. War is how real problems in the world are solved, it doesnt matter how much the war costs.

If history shows anything, it's that starting a war really solves very little.

[Grey Wolf]

I'm glad to see that the maturity level of the forum has been maintained since I left. Betting on a war? Have you no taste?

[Ulala]

If history shows anything, it's that starting a war really solves very little.

That's what I've been saying all along! Hitler really was very little. Thanks a lot, Japan.

 

[Scuddie]

100 posts on Failure to care imminent.

[Mr. Vega]

If the US bombs Iran, then what's to stop the Iranian army from rolling into Iraq and crushing the coalition forces?

[Ford Prefect]

I'm glad to see that the maturity level of the forum has been maintained since I left. Betting on a war? Have you no taste?

I'm glad to see you still have the sense of humor of a Benedictine monk during Lent. Well, I'm not glad, but saying "I'm glad" enhances the rapier wit of my cutting retort.

[Black Wolf]

If the US bombs Iran, then what's to stop the Iranian army from rolling into Iraq and crushing the coalition forces?

That would be the logistical problems inherent in moving 5 million men when your communications infrastructure has been blown to ****? Plus, The US army's problems in Iraq don't stem from them being a weak or underequipped army - it stems from an army trained to and equipped for open waqrfare being put into an assymetrical urban warfare situation and expected to perform. It'd still be a potent force when facing the Iranians in a standard mechanized battle.

[Mars]

100 posts on Failure to care imminent.

Let 'em come, why the hell would anyone post if they didn't care.

If the US bombs Iran, then what's to stop the Iranian army from rolling into Iraq and crushing the coalition forces?

Maybe the large military force that's two generations ahead of Iran?

Three Carrier groups worth of air power, and massive numbers of troops, and God knows how much armor and artillery... they'd have a fight on their hands.

And I'm not saying this is a good thing, I hate war, but the idea of Iran launching an attack on Iraq  and the massive military buildup there is kind of... preposterous.

EDIT: Black Wolf beat me.

[DeepSpace9er]

Also take into account the Air Superiority the US would have from the start, the technological superiority, and the better trained and better equiped soldiers. The Iranians wouldnt have a prayer of winning. They might get some kills, but it would be a no contest.

The problem is that nobody wants to look at Iran as "the enemy" and therefore doesnt want to do anything about the situation. They do not have equal rights to nuclear technology just because the US has it. There are evil people in the world and like it or not, they want to do bad things to us.

[TrenchardsLoveSock]

Iran are developing nukes and rattling sabres and we all talk about war and yet more invasions.  HOOAH :  If the world police are going to unleash their slightly stretched might somewhere, should it be N Korea who now actually have nukes?

Oops, I forgot, they have no oil, they're too close to China and they'd put up a REALLY good fight.

BTW, war isn't big or clever.

[WeatherOp]

Iran are developing nukes and rattling sabres and we all talk about war and yet more invasions.  HOOAH :  If the world police are going to unleash their slightly stretched might somewhere, should it be N Korea who now actually have nukes?

Oops, I forgot, they have no oil, they're too close to China and they'd put up a REALLY good fight.

BTW, war isn't big or clever.

Nah, if N.Korea attempted to launch a nuke, China would destroy them in minutes.

Why?

1. Show and proof of military strength
2. it would really make them look good to everyone else, and maximize exports

[Mars]

Iran are developing nukes and rattling sabres and we all talk about war and yet more invasions.  HOOAH :  If the world police are going to unleash their slightly stretched might somewhere, should it be N Korea who now actually have nukes?

Oops, I forgot, they have no oil, they're too close to China and they'd put up a REALLY good fight.

BTW, war isn't big or clever.

Nah, if N.Korea attempted to launch a nuke, China would destroy them in minutes.

Why?

1. Show and proof of military strength
2. it would really make them look good to everyone else, and maximize exports

At least their motives are better than the US's 

[Turey]

Iran are developing nukes and rattling sabres and we all talk about war and yet more invasions.  HOOAH :  If the world police are going to unleash their slightly stretched might somewhere, should it be N Korea who now actually have nukes?

Oops, I forgot, they have no oil, they're too close to China and they'd put up a REALLY good fight.

BTW, war isn't big or clever.

As WeatherOp says, the instant the North Koreans try anything beyond showing off, China will beat them down.

[Black Wolf]

If north Korea nuked anyone, it would be Japan. And then China would go "tut tut, naughty naughty kimmy!" and then privately cheer him on.

[Mefustae]

If north Korea nuked anyone, it would be Japan. And then China would go "tut tut, naughty naughty kimmy!" and then privately cheer him on.

You mean cheer on what's *left* of him after what equates to around 500 megatons worth of nuclear ordinance lands in his backyard.

[aldo_14]

100 posts on Failure to care imminent.

Let 'em come, why the hell would anyone post if they didn't care.

If the US bombs Iran, then what's to stop the Iranian army from rolling into Iraq and crushing the coalition forces?

Maybe the large military force that's two generations ahead of Iran?

Three Carrier groups worth of air power, and massive numbers of troops, and God knows how much armor and artillery... they'd have a fight on their hands.

And I'm not saying this is a good thing, I hate war, but the idea of Iran launching an attack on Iraq  and the massive military buildup there is kind of... preposterous.

EDIT: Black Wolf beat me.

Given that the US Army as-is can't stabilise Iraq, I doubt the arrival of a few hundred thousand Iranian troops - probably using relatively modern technology but using guerilla tactics ala the current insurgency and civil war - would be anywhere near as easy to handle as you're presuming.

However, as it stands Iraq is lined up to fall straight into Iranian 'hands' anyways; the dominant political party is an offshoot of a Tehran-based anti-Saddam insurgent group (reputedly still funded and armed by the Iranians).  In the even of a war, though, I doubt the US could handle two full-scale insurgencies at once.

[Mefustae]

In the even of a war, though, I doubt the US could handle two full-scale insurgencies at once.

Indeed, the danger being that the US might fall back on unconventional weapons should a war-effort fail to gain traction.

[aldo_14]

In the even of a war, though, I doubt the US could handle two full-scale insurgencies at once.

Indeed, the danger being that the US might fall back on unconventional weapons should a war-effort fail to gain traction.

Albiet I think the US can wipe out pretty much anyone with conventional weapons if they decide to give up the pretext of humanitarian goals.

[Mefustae]

Ah, point.