Author Topic: C&C3 (Read 27692 times)

Sarafan · **Reply #100 on:** March 14, 2007, 09:25:22 pm

Quote from: Mefustae on March 14, 2007, 07:23:36 pm

Quote from: G0atmaster on March 14, 2007, 11:51:14 am
I would think McNeal running him through the heart with a sword would be about as close to dead as you can get...
Yeah, because getting impaled is much worse than getting vapourised by an orbital superlaser.

Actually it is worse, when impaled you'll be alive for sometime to feel the pain, with the ion cannon you probably dont fell anything, you're vaporised in a instant, so yeah it is worse.

wtf_cl0vvn · **Reply #101 on:** March 14, 2007, 11:47:42 pm

Quote from: G0atmaster on March 14, 2007, 11:51:14 am

well, in the movie in the demo where Kane is seen, he's not metallo-Kane, yet remember when he first revealed to NOD he was still alive, he wasn't metallo-Kane then either, but only when McNeal is there trying to kill him.

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Well, i don't think that GDI has ever had conclusive evidence to show that they MUST have killed Kane...IIRC they just assume that he's been killed and never bother to really check.

I would think McNeal running him through the heart with a sword would be about as close to dead as you can get...

Well, after the events of firestorm, he is enhanced metallo-kane, so the powers of tiberium and industry probably helped bring him back...somehow.

MarkN · **Reply #102 on:** March 15, 2007, 08:21:53 am

Clones and decoys my friend, clones and decoys. All of these different Kanes are actually fakes, the real Kane is hiding in a bunker somewhere with a microphone to tell the fakes what to say.

Singh · **Reply #103 on:** March 15, 2007, 11:49:52 am

I miss Klapecki's music. Without that its just...I dunno, not C&C. Still, the demo was fun, but the AI absolutely cheats at Brutal difficulty. GDI seems a tad overpowered initially, though but as I found out its actually NOD that have the advantage here - especially in terms of Arial power. Unlike GDI, Nod can make unlimited gunships - something that puts a stop to any GDI advance (even if it has Mammoth tanks). That, and those beam cannons are fun - especially if you have 10+ of em. So far I've been able to beat the brutal GDI turtle with ease. But the Brutal Nod Turtle always beats my ass thanks to their air power and bombers

Anyways, screenshots. This was taken at full high-end graphics and 2x AA. My system ran it at 5FPS during it.

NGTM-1R · **Reply #104 on:** March 15, 2007, 12:57:37 pm

Quote from: Mefustae on March 14, 2007, 07:23:36 pm

Quote from: G0atmaster on March 14, 2007, 11:51:14 am
I would think McNeal running him through the heart with a sword would be about as close to dead as you can get...
Yeah, because getting impaled is much worse than getting vapourised by an orbital superlaser.

That's actually an alternate ending cutscene, if you destroy the temple by conventional means you don't get it. Besides, as you'd know if you were paying attention, the Temple took the hit but Kane's command bunker was buried well underneath it.

G0atmaster · **Reply #105 on:** March 15, 2007, 03:29:46 pm

singh, what resolution do you play at? I play at 1024x768, and zoomed in that much, it's HORRIBLY pixelated.

Quote from: Mefustae on March 14, 2007, 07:23:36 pm

Quote from: G0atmaster on March 14, 2007, 11:51:14 am
I would think McNeal running him through the heart with a sword would be about as close to dead as you can get...
Yeah, because getting impaled is much worse than getting vapourised by an orbital superlaser.

What I was getting at, was with the Ion Cannon, he was vaporized, as was the building he was in. Therefore, there was no confirmation of his death. When McNeal stabbed him, I would assume he'd make DARN sure he's dead. Also, the first CnC, Kane's alive. When Tiberian Sun gets relased, supposedly Kane's been killed by a team of "GDI Assassins" who disappeared if I remember right. Then, McNeal killed metallo-Kane at the end of TS. For all of Firestorm, Cabal and Slavik were leading Nod, not Kane, as he'd just died. Now, mysteriously, he's alive again

wtf_cl0vvn · **Reply #106 on:** March 15, 2007, 10:45:29 pm

Well, at the end of firestorm, he's back. IIRC...

Grawr · **Reply #107 on:** March 16, 2007, 12:28:17 am

You can't kill the messiah.

CP5670 · **Reply #108 on:** March 16, 2007, 12:32:16 am

They've brought back the silo trick in this. When it says silos needed, you can build something expensive and cancel it to convert the money into cash rather than tiberium, which doesn't need to be stored. This was there in C&C and RA and was probably a bug, although they had "fixed" it in TS.

I need to check if the Q trick still works here. That was crucial in RA, especially for the Allies.

G0atmaster · **Reply #109 on:** March 19, 2007, 11:39:11 am

what's the "Q" trick?

IceFire · **Reply #110 on:** March 19, 2007, 09:43:16 pm

Been having tons of fun with the demo now that I've got it working well. At first GDI seems to be the really powerful one...but NOD is just as powerful and I wonder if not moreso when the right tactics are employed. Both are very unique sides given the gameplay style and they have some really different ways of doing some things. The defensive structures for NOD are really neat and some of the upgrades are a blast. The Beam Artillery unit is much cooler once you start building a few of them...they combine lasers when firing which is naturally quite useful. Also bouncing the beams off a parked Venom are helpful too.

Swarms of Venom's are pretty potent against infantry and Orcas as well. Not so much against the Firehawks when armed with missiles (which are now my favorite unit on the GDI side) but thats how it goes.

I'm really impressed...still...and the demo was well executed on the whole. A substantial demo with some great stuff put into it. Makes you want the full game even more.

CP5670 · **Reply #111 on:** March 20, 2007, 01:30:26 am

Quote from: G0atmaster on March 19, 2007, 11:39:11 am

what's the "Q" trick?

It was a hidden feature in the game to set waypoints. If you held down the Q key and issued several move orders in succession, the units would go to the positions one by one, and you could give them attack orders at the same time. The light tanks were fast enough to dodge enemy tank shots completely from about three squares away, so you could effectively have the tanks circle strafe around enemy stuff. If you timed the Q positions just right, the tanks took almost no damage in a fight since the enemy shots would all miss.

IceFire · **Reply #112 on:** March 22, 2007, 05:56:56 pm

Some players just spammed the X key and that had a similar effect with light tanks in particular.

Mathwiz6 · **Reply #113 on:** March 25, 2007, 11:41:28 am

Quote from: wtf_cl0vvn on March 14, 2007, 11:47:42 pm

Quote from: G0atmaster on March 14, 2007, 11:51:14 am
well, in the movie in the demo where Kane is seen, he's not metallo-Kane, yet remember when he first revealed to NOD he was still alive, he wasn't metallo-Kane then either, but only when McNeal is there trying to kill him.

However:
Quote
Well, i don't think that GDI has ever had conclusive evidence to show that they MUST have killed Kane...IIRC they just assume that he's been killed and never bother to really check.

I would think McNeal running him through the heart with a sword would be about as close to dead as you can get...

Well, after the events of firestorm, he is enhanced metallo-kane, so the powers of tiberium and industry probably helped bring him back...somehow.

"We HAVE the technology! We CAN rebuild him, make him better, stronger, and more powerful than EVER!"

Starman01 · **Reply #114 on:** March 27, 2007, 10:48:08 am

Hm, just played the demo, and I have to say it really well done, pure C&C feeling just like the good old days. I definitly gonna buy this (but english version only, german localisation will suck 100% with men converted to bots and so on

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But what really blew me away was the quality of the movies, I never saw such sharp videos (without any stuttering or other probs) like in this demo. That's really great

Only thing that wondered me, didn't had BSG actor Boomer bigger breasts before ?

diceman111 · **Reply #115 on:** March 27, 2007, 11:20:56 am

Have been playing the GDI Campaign for an hour or two looks good havent gotten that far yet I think but still looks like the best game of them yet....

CP5670 · **Reply #116 on:** March 27, 2007, 12:00:03 pm

I don't have time to buy or play it for another week, unfortunately.

NGTM-1R · **Reply #117 on:** March 31, 2007, 01:18:14 am

I preordered but Amazon is a bunch of bastards and did not ship on release day. In fact they still haven't.

****it, to the store I go and Amazon can have it back.

IceFire · **Reply #118 on:** March 31, 2007, 06:22:42 pm

Picked up my Kane Edition from the store on Thursday. The game is absolutely brilliant but it has a few bugs and I keep having trouble with the sound. I suspect they just don't support the specific AC'97 implementation in the nVidia Soundstorm that I have.

Starman01 · **Reply #119 on:** April 02, 2007, 07:54:33 am

Possible. I received my copy (US-Version) on Saturday, played it more or less 75 % and haven't encountered any bug, crash or else so far.

The game is excellent, though I would have made a few balance issues a little different. What I really miss is that you can't build walls anymore. Not that they were so much usefull, but it always made my base look complete

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