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Offline KappaWing

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still here, dont go phoning stuff it will only make everything harder on me.

I really dont care who knows what my situation is anymore. kara can tell you all, i dont care. you may think its pathetic or whatever but i really dont give a ****.
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Offline Bobboau

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if you don't want people calling the cops, don't post that your about to kill yourself.

ok, then tell us what the hell is going on then?

I just double checked through this whole thread, 5 pages, you have yet to even tell us specifically why you are contemplating suicide, just that it's getting better...it's getting worse... now better... now worse

you have told us plenty of other unrelated stories however.
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Offline KappaWing

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My unrelated stories will not destroy my dignity. if you know what i'm contemplating this over you will think I am very weak or insane or something like that, but you wouldent understand. Bascially it gets better with every false promise someone makes to me and gets worse everytime i find out its false. Karajorma can tell you pretty much whats going on if its thats important for some reason, but thats really off the topic of this thread. I just need the most quickest and painless way out in case things DO get worse for me. I dont know if they will anymore but i cannot correctly forsee anything. google and wiki cant help me, so i'm asking the smartest people i know, you in this forum, to give objective advice.

And how will calling the godamn cops make things any better for anyone?
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Offline Wild Fragaria

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You can talk to me, please.

 

Offline Bobboau

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how will killing yourself?

seriously if you kill yourself before telling me what this is all about, I will hire a necromancer, bring you back to life, and then beat you to death again.
actually serious now, if you kill yourself all you will be doing is making someone else's life harder.

did you get some girl pregnant or something?
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Offline TrashMan

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no hope for what exactly, I have no hope in my life, I have no freinds, I'm 24 spent 6 years to get an assosiates degree, there are people my age I know who are getting a doctorate, I've never had a girlfreind, I'm all alone all the ****ing time with no love from anyone or anything every person I meet seems to have something out for me and I can never seem to do anything right, my life is a dark pit of emptiness

I notice some similarities between the two of us..a lot of them actually...(altough I got friends and loving family and I manage to do something right every once and awhile...aside from that it's very, very similar)
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so i'm asking the smartest people i know, you in this forum, to give objective advice.
Two things here mate.

1: We tried calling people to help you out because here we are - sat at our respective computers - with no way of contacting you directly and wondering if you've done something that none of us want to happen.

2: If you want objective advice - or any advice at all - then you need to tell us the facts. Saying something bad is going on in your life is a great way to get sympathy, and we're full of that believe me, but it's impossible to give you proper support here unless we know a bit more about this.

And on a closing note, don't go worrying about your dignity around here. We're a bunch of people on the internet and while there may be flame wars or people saying stupid things - nobody is ever going to judge your choices in life around here. It's not our place. So say what's wrong, no matter how stupid or insane you think it is, and we'll take it from there.

 

Offline aldo_14

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My unrelated stories will not destroy my dignity. if you know what i'm contemplating this over you will think I am very weak or insane or something like that, but you wouldent understand. Bascially it gets better with every false promise someone makes to me and gets worse everytime i find out its false. Karajorma can tell you pretty much whats going on if its thats important for some reason, but thats really off the topic of this thread. I just need the most quickest and painless way out in case things DO get worse for me. I dont know if they will anymore but i cannot correctly forsee anything. google and wiki cant help me, so i'm asking the smartest people i know, you in this forum, to give objective advice.

And how will calling the godamn cops make things any better for anyone?

Because the last thing anyone wants to see is you getting hurt.  People here - and in your life outside this forum - care for you, your health and your wellbeing.   The thng is not to think of escaping if it gets worse, etc, because all you do is put yourself in a frame of mind where things will get worse.  You're not alone in this, you know - most people can understand, if not exactly, the situation you're in and how you feel.  No-one thinks you are weak or insane, but we do think you'd be making a huge mistake to kill yourself.


 

Offline KappaWing

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The thng is not to think of escaping if it gets worse, etc, because all you do is put yourself in a frame of mind where things will get worse.

Yeah, i been just starting to realize that. The problem is i hate distracting myself when I have a problem. I cant bring myself to do it. Instead i obsess over the problem, looking for any loophole possible to fix it. When the problem gets worse, I look for other ways out. When i'm depressed, i'm only happy when i'm working toward fixing the problem.

The situation backround is not important. I need information from someone. That someone is hell bent on ignoring me. I dont want to force this person though. I cant see a way out?
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...do I understand correctly that the person withholding this information is the reason for your troubles?

 

Offline aldo_14

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The thng is not to think of escaping if it gets worse, etc, because all you do is put yourself in a frame of mind where things will get worse.

Yeah, i been just starting to realize that. The problem is i hate distracting myself when I have a problem. I cant bring myself to do it. Instead i obsess over the problem, looking for any loophole possible to fix it. When the problem gets worse, I look for other ways out. When i'm depressed, i'm only happy when i'm working toward fixing the problem.

The situation backround is not important. I need information from someone. That someone is hell bent on ignoring me. I dont want to force this person though. I cant see a way out?

Are they deliberately ignoring you?  Do you know why?

 

Offline Bobboau

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:wtf: what sort of information could the lack of, bring you to this!?
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Kappa's kind of like me. If I have a problem I act kind of retarded and try not to do anything to make me feel better since I feel as if what I'm doing is being eclipsed by my problem...

 

Offline Polpolion

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Yeah, i been just starting to realize that. The problem is i hate distracting myself when I have a problem. I cant bring myself to do it. Instead i obsess over the problem, looking for any loophole possible to fix it. When the problem gets worse, I look for other ways out. When i'm depressed, i'm only happy when i'm working toward fixing the problem.

The situation backround is not important. I need information from someone. That someone is hell bent on ignoring me. I dont want to force this person though. I cant see a way out?



So this person is just being a dick? Wait a while and see if they stop being such a dick. If they still don't tell you, you might have to force them (If the information you want really is all that important).

I'd like to provide a better solution, but I need more information. But you already told much more capable people, and everything past what you've already said is really personal matters, so I won't invade. :nod:

Good luck!

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:p ok I'll stop

 

Offline Goober5000

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And how will calling the godamn cops make things any better for anyone?
Because suicide is illegal in certain states? :nervous:

Seriously, KappaWing, I'm glad to hear that you're still all right.  Just keep it that way. :) You have God-given dignity and worth that nobody can take away -- not your enemies, not your circumstances, and not even yourself.

Do you have any contact information, or anything we can do to check up on you to make sure you're still doing okay?

 

Offline KappaWing

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I should be fine until wednesday evening. Then, another moment of miracle or disaster. I'm getting so sick of this  :sigh:

Contact information, you got my email, AIM, MSN, googletalk, myspace. Just not the cops!
Kappa's kind of like me. If I have a problem I act kind of retarded and try not to do anything to make me feel better since I feel as if what I'm doing is being eclipsed by my problem...

Yes, that the problem is so important you feel like youre letting it go if you distract yourself.

And i appreciate the smilies, sizzler.
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Contact information, you got my email, AIM, MSN, googletalk, myspace. Just not the cops!

The problem is if you go through another down time and post something like you did earlier, you're gonna leave everyone here worried sick. And to ask that you leave something in your will to have someone contact us if you do what we're all afraid of you doing is just too morbid, not to mention somewhat bizarre.

Read the last few posts on my blog. My brigade commander comitted suicide recently, with no note, no indications of anything being wrong - nothing. I realize that I'm in no position to say this, but I'll say it anyway - don't you  dare leave those who care about you in the dark like my commander did.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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And everyone who knew him says that it simply cannot be a suicide, that Eyal had too much going for him, and no issues that would drive a man to take his own life.

He was found shot in his Jeep. How do you know this was suicide?
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His radio and cellphones were turned off, his jeep was parked neatly on the side of the road, he had gone out without his driver and had switched to the passenger's seat. But most of all, his M-16 was between his legs, barrel in his mouth, and his finger still in the trigger.

Granted, it could be that there's some pretty nasty foul-play involved, a big setup or whatever, but it's unlikely as hell.

Disclaimer: all the above is the information as we were told at the time, and in the days afterwards. I have no idea what may have changed - if anything did - since then, with the undoubtably thurough investigation that is being performed.
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline Bob-san

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We worry about you. I am very happy that you would actually talk to me; it shows me that you are still strong. The only way you could truly give up your dignity is let the world forget about you... and no I don't mean kill yourself. You are in a hole right now, but your head is not below ground. You have enough left in you to question if what you're doing is good; you're not quite 8 feet under yet, and this forum, at a minimum, hope you do not end up 8 feet under until you're old and wrinkled.
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