[Kazan]

well my main computer is switched over.. im isntalling stuff now

[Vertigo1]

 

Originally posted by Zeronet:
Windows XP isnt inefficient. Its got tons of new features that make life easier and more stable.

*tries to keep from laughing*

Let me guess, they changed the BSOD to a little red screen saying "This computer has crashed.  Please pay MS another $150 for a new copy of Windows XP as it is the only way you will ever get anything up and running."  

Seriously, XP is basically Win2k n00bified.  If you want to have a OS that looks like it came from Toys R Us..then whatever floats your boat.  However, as "great" as it sounds, no OS has EVER been NEAR as stable as DOS.  Sure, it comes close (mainly because it doesn't have to deal with hybrid crap) but not close enough.    The only thing REMOTELY close is UNIX.  And the great thing about UNIX is that it has networking support BUILT-IN, unlike DOS.  MS should've definitely gone the NIX route instead of cloning crap from Apple.

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"Oh and Kazan - you have some nice rocks" - Thunder

"stapled myself to an office chair, forgot about it, and was stuck for 2 hours for one thing" - Stryke 9

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[mikhael]

 

Originally posted by MD-2389:
*tries to keep from laughing*

Let me guess, they changed the BSOD to a little red screen saying "This computer has crashed.  Please pay MS another $150 for a new copy of Windows XP as it is the only way you will ever get anything up and running."  

Seriously, XP is basically Win2k n00bified.  If you want to have a OS that looks like it came from Toys R Us..then whatever floats your boat.  However, as "great" as it sounds, no OS has EVER been NEAR as stable as DOS.  Sure, it comes close (mainly because it doesn't have to deal with hybrid crap) but not close enough.    The only thing REMOTELY close is UNIX.  And the great thing about UNIX is that it has networking support BUILT-IN, unlike DOS.  MS should've definitely gone the NIX route instead of cloning crap from Apple.

Ah but XP is 2k is NT and NT, as anyone who knows their MS kernels will point out, is VMS at its core. XP and family are all pretty stable, once you, the administrator, rip out all the silly frippery that makes it act in silly ways. Like the various compatibility layers, integrated server bits, etc.

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[Top Gun]

I sense a Holy War.

[Fineus]

The only wars that happen around here never get enough time to develop. Not whilst I still wield this:  

[Sandwich]

Ok, here's the way things are: Windows 2000 (professional) is the best version of windows out there for people who know what they're doing in windows and computers. Period, end of sentence.

Windows XP, while it may still retain the NT/2K stability, runs slowly as an OS. Screen redraws are slower than any other previous windows (what else is new   ). The interface is dumbed down, and given a theme/skin that looks like it was designed by Fisher/Price. It's gaming performance lies below Win98 but above Win2k. Note: I'm not referring to Win98SE because I have no experience with that specific version, nor am I going to start harping on WinME - it's not worth the kilobits it'd take up. *shudders at the mention of WinME*

I've found that for work, or basically for anything that doesn't involve DirectX/OpenGL 3D gaming, Windows 2000 is the best. It makes great use of any and all extra RAM you throw its way. It's stable. It can be configured for a nice level of security, etc. The only reason I still dual-boot with Win98 is for 3D gaming performance.

As far as compatability with apps goes, overall Win98 is the best - simply because Win2K is quite protective of its hardware, which is one of the main reasons for its stability. An example I have personal familiarity with (grrr...) is that of a TV card. My brother has an ancient LifeView TV card that was originally made back in the Windows 3.1 days. It worked - with upgraded software - up through Win98. But despite the specifically engineered Win2K drivers/software for it, it simply would not run under 2K. So my brother dual-boots, too.  

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[Top Gun]

 

Originally posted by Kazan:
7 cds! apps apps and more apps come with that distro

There's an awful lot of apps that come with red hat, way more then anything M$ would ever throw in

[Top Gun]

Just as a final note on this subject: I insist that anyone thinking of buying a new Micro$oft O$ read This before they put money into the pockets of those ba$tards.

[Thorn]

Actually, even for Opengl/DirectX gaming, 2k is great, its just a pain to get them to work properly.

[Zeronet]

 

Originally posted by Top Gun:
Just as a final note on this subject: I insist that anyone thinking of buying a new Micro$oft O$ read This before they put money into the pockets of those ba$tards.

I dont listen to Hip Hop. I wouldnt know what it tells you when your computer crashes, because quite simply it hasnt crashed. Although its understandable that some people just dont like it when someone becomes successful. I'll stick with the OS's that run my games the best, that is Windows etc.


[This message has been edited by Zeronet (edited 01-06-2002).]

[Vertigo1]

 

Originally posted by Thunder:
The only wars that happen around here never get enough time to develop. Not whilst I still wield this:  

And THIS folks is why Gallagher should never be allowed to have children.      

It slices, it dices, it closes threads!  Don't you want to know what it is?

SLEDGE-O-MATIC!

*BAM*

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"You know you've played Freespace too much when you're driving along trying to use countermeasures to shake off pursuing highway police." - Top Gun

"Oh and Kazan - you have some nice rocks" - Thunder

"stapled myself to an office chair, forgot about it, and was stuck for 2 hours for one thing" - Stryke 9

Material Defender Studios

[Vertigo1]

 

Originally posted by Thorn:
Actually, even for Opengl/DirectX gaming, 2k is great, its just a pain to get them to work properly.

If your hardware has decent NT drivers, you won't have any trouble at all.  

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"You know you've played Freespace too much when you're driving along trying to use countermeasures to shake off pursuing highway police." - Top Gun

"Oh and Kazan - you have some nice rocks" - Thunder

"stapled myself to an office chair, forgot about it, and was stuck for 2 hours for one thing" - Stryke 9

Material Defender Studios

[Mystical]

 

Originally posted by Kazan:
or atleast bored of all the games i have on windows.. they're are some real great games on linux that aren't on windows - but you don't hear about them because they're free!

such as?

[Mystical]

 

Originally posted by MD-2389:
*tries to keep from laughing*

Let me guess, they changed the BSOD to a little red screen saying "This computer has crashed.  Please pay MS another $150 for a new copy of Windows XP as it is the only way you will ever get anything up and running."  

Seriously, XP is basically Win2k n00bified.  If you want to have a OS that looks like it came from Toys R Us..then whatever floats your boat.  However, as "great" as it sounds, no OS has EVER been NEAR as stable as DOS.  Sure, it comes close (mainly because it doesn't have to deal with hybrid crap) but not close enough.    The only thing REMOTELY close is UNIX.  And the great thing about UNIX is that it has networking support BUILT-IN, unlike DOS.  MS should've definitely gone the NIX route instead of cloning crap from Apple.

shows how much you know... you obviously don't have it running, or you wouldn't talk like such an idiot!  Oh, and it's not build on Windows 2000, it's build on NT

[Unknown Target]

 

Originally posted by Mystical:
shows how much you know... you obviously don't have it running, or you wouldn't talk like such an idiot!  Oh, and it's not build on Windows 2000, it's build on NT

If memory serves me, Windows 2000 was built on NT...
P.S. Where can I get all of Kazan's tools?

[Kazan]

Windows 2000 was very much NT "technology"

tools are on the ap site

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[Carl]

so wait...are you gone or not?

[Sandwich]

 

Originally posted by Carl:
so wait...are you gone or not?

Duhhh.... can't you tell he's gone? I mean, really, Carl.... with all those compound eyes, can you see him or his posts anywhere? I certainly can't... {/dripping sarcasm}

   

All those ramblings aside, that's a good question.  

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America, stand assured that Israel truly understands what you are going through.

Know how to use Rhino3D? Want to put your ships into Freespace 2? You've come to the right place!

"He who laughs last thinks slowest."
"Just becase you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you."
"To err is human; to really screw up you need a computer."
Creator of the Sandvich Bar, the CapShip Turret Upgrade, the Complete FS2 Ship List and the System Backgrounds List (all available from the site)

[Martinus]

Kazan do you have any idea when you'll be releasing the code. I'd very much like to get a look at it.

Thanks dude and good luck  

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[Kazan]

i said i'd been in from time to time, especially when i get email notification of replies