[takashi]

is it just me, or are the shinemapped/htl asteroids a total waste of resources? since when are rocks shiny anyway!?

[Mars]

The asteroids should be shine mapped so they aren't nearly so shiny, and HTL rocks are a must so that they don't look like a conglomeration of triangles.

[Cobra]

is it just me, or are the shinemapped/htl asteroids a total waste of resources? since when are rocks shiny anyway!?

I assume you're talking about Wing Commander Saga Prologue? Because FSO's asteroid's aren't very shiny at all.

[Taristin]

Takashi, if you are worried about your system resources, play with all of the effects turned off.

[Flipside]

Once you get used to VP View, you can extract the shinemaps out for things like asteroids and make them something like 16 x 16, it doesn't affect the system much visually, but takes less memory

Though, having seen what can be done with shine and environment maps on asteroids in Eve has made me think there are possiblities....

[Raven2001]

the only thing that MIGHT be wrong with the asteroids are the LODs... perhaps they would need better LODing.

But even then, im not completely sure if it is

[takashi]

maybe less hi-poly asteroids? and the LOD thing sounds good. its weird when you see a tiny asteroid, and then it changes into a huge one bigger than your ship.

[S-99]

Asteroids should stay the same. Hi poly wise and shinyness (light is a lot more intense out in space than here on earth).
Of course the loding sounds like a good thing to improve them, but they're not that bad.

[takashi]

and then there is the issue of the mediavp orion...

i would like to play with the mediavp's on and not end up with a 13 fps  whenever the bastion/random orion jumps in.

[WMCoolmon]

and then there is the issue of the mediavp orion...

i would like to play with the mediavp's on and not end up with a 13 fps  whenever the bastion/random orion jumps in.

There's nothing stopping you from extracting the MediaVP files using VPView, and then recompressing them with VPMage, VPCS2, or QuickVP. You could remove the Orion in the process.

[takashi]

man, im so tunnle minded sometimes...

[S-99]

How does the htl orion drop framerates? No ship in the game drops framerates for me, unless you're running an inferior rig compared to mine(most people who play the scp are running some serious old hardware). Of course my systems pet peaves were dabs beams, and the ultra high quality shockwaves(which are ridiculously high quality when the medium ones do more than enough justice with no slow down). And then i upgraded from 9800pro 256mb to 7600gt, well i just built a whole new computer around the video card and sold my old system. The htl orion thing sounds wierd though, idk why that would cause slow down, it never did for me on any of my rigs. The htl orion on my 9800pro computer was just a smooth performing high quality orion, until it started blasting out dab's beams

[Snail]

The HTL Orion is a very high poly-count, it made my FPS  on my old computer drop to around 4 FPS (that computer had nearly no RAM to speak of). Taka, you could try some of TrashMan's Orions if you still want a better looking Orion without major FPS drops. A few of them may be a little screwey, but some of them work.

[takashi]

jeez, all the low poly ones with decent textures were fine 0_0

where can i find the mid-range orion(s)?

[Cobra]

There are none. Either use the high-detail Orion or the stock one.

[takashi]

The HTL Orion is a very high poly-count, it made my FPS  on my old computer drop to around 4 FPS (that computer had nearly no RAM to speak of). Taka, you could try some of TrashMan's Orions if you still want a better looking Orion without major FPS drops. A few of them may be a little screwey, but some of them work.

he mentions trashman having mid-level ones, doesent he? maybe the worse then cobra title should go now.

[Snail]

Go check here:

http://hades-combine.com/web/index.php?ind=downloads&op=entry_view&iden=198

make sure you don't leave in the new turrets (in the table), they may break the main campaign. This does still have quite some polys, but less than the crazy mvp one.

[TrashMan]

eDIT POST..

Beat me to it Snail....well, the name doesn't suit you

[Cobra]

he mentions trashman having mid-level ones, doesent he? maybe the worse then cobra title should go now.

Don't be an ass, I'm not the one who goes around saying that he works for Volition.

Not to mention getting a very true title removed isn't warranted by misreading a post.

Go check here:

http://hades-combine.com/web/index.php?ind=downloads&op=entry_view&iden=198

make sure you don't leave in the new turrets (in the table), they may break the main campaign. This does still have quite some polys, but less than the crazy mvp one.

Hmm, that doesn't really strike me as canon looking, but it does look great.

[Snail]

More detail, yet not insane like the Mvp Orion.