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Offline Fineus

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Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
Update: Be advised the cut off date for this topic will be Wednesday the 18th of April. After this point it will be locked.

Hello everyone.

At the start of this month I announced some changes in the way things work around here, including my own appointment as Operations Manager. In the background I've been talking to the admins to find out who is busy and who isn't - that sort of thing. Call it a census if you like. That stage is now complete.

Now I need you.

The next phase of the plan is to get feedback from as many members of the site as possible - be they members, moderators, people working on projects - anyone who visits HLP and has a reason for being here.

I'd like you to answer this question:

What would you like to see fixed, changed, added or improved upon at HLP?


After the answers of this question are collected, I intend to draw up a list of requests based upon these answers - we'll then break these requests into catagories (bugs to be fixed, content to be added - etc.) and assign a priority to each point.

This done, we'll begin working on these points, hopefully resulting in a site that everyone can enjoy and that really supports everyones needs here.

At this point I'd like to make a disclaimer. We may not make every change that is suggested and some requests may be denied as unfeasable for some reason. We'll try and please everyone - but I'd like to say up front that we're not promising to bow to every single wish and desire. You have been warned :)

Also, requests for expansion of the site to cover other games/genres at this stage will not happen. We have our own reasons for this - but just because we're not doing it now doesn't mean it'll never happen.

Given all that, start posting!
« Last Edit: April 14, 2007, 05:13:13 am by Kalfireth »

 

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
First post!

Okay, first, I want you to reinstate the [lvlshot] tags.

 

Offline Fury

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
SMF adds horizontal scrollbars if image does not fit inside topic layout. While this may not be the most elegant solution out there, it's how SMF handles this by default. This is unlike in the old unmodded vB 2.x where large images stretched topic layout to fit full image and why lvlshot was born in the first place.

So while I think lvlshot is totally unnecessary in SMF, maybe the default img-tag can be altered to behave more like the old lvlshot if there are enough requests even though I don't personally fancy this change. :)

Edit: Corrected above statement which was direct result of my ****ty memory.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2007, 12:38:20 pm by Fury »

 

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
Really?

 

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
jr2, please keep this sensible. This isn't the forum for spamming orly pictures. ://Kal
« Last Edit: April 11, 2007, 12:37:30 pm by Kalfireth »

 

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
Ya, sorry... did it resize the pic of my desktop down to size?  I couldn't check and see, my connection dropped just then :/
*I do stuff like this when I'm really tired :nervous:

 
Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
lvlshot is very usefull to reinstall since a lot of old posts still use those.


 

Offline Polpolion

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
There was something really neat that I thought about a bit ago, but I forgot what it was. I'll just edit this post if I remember.

 

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
Can we get Glow to work in Firefox?

Also, can we get a better search function?
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Offline Vretsu

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
Force the Inferno team to fix their muddled, incomprehensible mess of FAQ and download stickies ("Click here for download links...no...CLICK HERE...no, no...click HERE...no, you fool...click HERE or you're nothin").

Sorry, guys, but it's total information paralysis over there. A lot of other forums could use revamped stickies, too, this is really just one example. The FRED forum, for example, could probably use MORE stickies.

It'd be worth reviewing...


 

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
Maybe someone could create topic with complete list of finished ships and other stuff (with appropriate links). Topic should be locked and updated, let's say, once a month...

Yes, I know it will take some time to find all things... :P
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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
I want to see my updated signature without checking one of my posts :P
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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
Is there anyway to download the HLP in tree format?  eg, the various topics and subtopics are arranged like a directory structure, with text... and they are all in one file.

What I'm getting at is that then it would be possible to search for a phrase / word, and have every instance of that phrase word be highlighted as you search through the forums.  Would be kind of useful for hunting down ships, missions, campaigns, anything that's gotten deeply buried.

 

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
Project badges for the various projects not hosted at HLP, but still using the FSO engine for their project (those projects can host the images :D).

We've gone a route that is independent, yes - (but we're also not sucking up your bandwidth :D) but we'd still like to feel like part of the community :D

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Offline Bob-san

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
A campaign credit-list? Put it in for each individual user the campaigns they participated in and campaigns they're currently participating in.
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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
Can we get Glow to work in Firefox?

"We" most definitely cannot. If you bug the Mozilla dev team enough, perhaps you might be able to convince them to code in support for such proprietary, non-standard code as glow tags, but I wouldn't waste the time.

Translation: No, and there's no point in asking us again.
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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
user-controlled custom titles?

 

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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
Reinstate lvl tags. Ensuring that Google text ads are text ads.

Project badges for non-HLP projects (BSG, etc.)
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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
Please reinstate
Spoiler:
tags.  :)
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Re: Change / Addition Request Thread, April 2007
A few things came to mind...

1)) A dedicated effort by those considered to be among the best in their categories
(scripting, modeling, tabling, textures, etc) to make tutorials or knowledge updates
for whatever program they feel comfortable with.

Please understand that I'm not trying to come off as a jerk or a noob here, just state
what is seen from this point of view. I've been told I have a "matter of fact" or "in your face"
style of typing - I'm pointing out now that's not my intention here.

We all want more help on our projects, we all want to get better in our own skills,
we want more and interesting mods that promote FS2. Cept the problem with this is
that the main bulk of information lies within a select group - and that group is already
stretched too thin. The new capabilities have been produced faster than they have been
documented. New folks can't learn, the wise have too much to do. It's a self defeating cycle.

So instead of continuing along this course, why not stop and update what needs to be done
in order for the community to catch up again. It might also be wise to re-evaluate how documentation
is set up/submitted in order to help limit the problem in the future or streamline the system.

2)) Since there is such a need for information, there should be some dedicated section either
for tutorials themselves, or at the very least links listed in one spot for easy access and divided by program/usage. The "tutorial" section that is part of the Wiki is not what I would consider a true tutorial
on most of the topics - they are closer to listings of capability or features.

An example of what I mean:
http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Texturing

The response to this would typically be something along the lines of "they can go find tutorials on the net", "look around", "just play with it you'll get there". Well, that sadly does not work for a few reasons. 1. A majority of net tut's are written from the perspective that the person has a pre-knowledge of the program. 2. The internet changes every second, what you may find as a good tut today is gone tomorrow. 3. Not all of them apply in the same sense to topics that would have to do with a space game, or flight as demonstrated with the SoL mod. 4. A lot of tut's leave out some steps or contain mistakes - thus leaving the noob lost as to what to do. 5. In similarity to point #3, the tutorials that "could" be made, would be much more applicable to FS2 SCP due to the people writing them... an example being the detail boxes. 6. Lastly, some people just don't "get it" as well as others. HLP's modding support is great for individual questions or problem solving due to the people - but on a entry-broad spectrum topic it lacks.

If nothing else, think how much time you'd save telling the new folks "how" when they can be given a link to a section (sounds like the HLP welcome beam doesn't it? ^_^ ).

Another idea that just came to mind, is start a tutorial review section. There you post a tutorial from somewhere else in order for the members to look through it and provide a review comment. If it's incomplete or missing something, too hard, written in uberGeek, etc... then it should be able to spotted and fixed/edited or rejected. Sort of like a certification process or "HLP approved" tut that would get the job done.
Looking over a tut with illustrations in a thread shouldn't be any more difficult than reading a regular topic of posts and making a reply there.

3)) It appears that you could at times use a longer list of available poll options. I've not been on the operator side of a SMF board in a very long time, so I don't know how well it could be fixed/upgraded.

4)) The icons or avatars would be nice I suppose, so that's another "for" vote - but in the interest of keeping
things quick to load I understand if not.

5)) Strangely,when using the search function from the index, it always comes up with no result - until tried a second time. If there was also a way to make it more accurate, that would always be appreciated.

6)) Keep up the good work  :yes:  :)
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