[Unknown Target]

Speaking of politics, I find it interesting that as soon as this happens, George W is there on the scene to mourn with the victims, yet he vanished without a trace all throughout the Katrina disaster.

[Sandwich]

For this guy to have taken out 32 other people, one bullet at a time, is just a sign that nobody knew what to do (Flght 93-style), and were just cowered in a corner somewhere.

And hey, Sandwhich, check class sizes before you throw that kind of stuff. The one I found figures for was 15 students. Add a teacher for 16. With two handguns he would have had enough ammunition ready to use to drop most or all of the class. There were three people unhurt after he left the room. That fits pretty well with a pair of your average 9mm's magazines and most people getting shot more than once.

And how does that contradict what I said?

My whole point was that killing that many people with a home-brew explosive device is (apparently) quite difficult, while shooting that many people is time-consuming.

Oh, and as an aside, there was NOBODY left unhurt in ANY of those classrooms. Physically, perhaps. But the emotional trauma....

[jr2]

Hmm, on the topic of getting up and charging the guy... You'd be the biggest target, but you'd also be a moving target.  Depending on your luck / training and other factors, you might actually make it.  I dunno.

[Sandwich]

In all honesty, the best thing to do would probably be to get a few guys to start throwing chairs and desks at the gunman while others went and swarmed him.

[Mustang19]

Pencils, textbooks, shoes....

Anyway, from what I heard, he bolted the door, stood in front of the room, fired, calmly reloaded his pistol, and fired again. Noone did anything. Fear does that to people. It's the "United 93" syndrome.

[Grey Wolf]

In all honesty, the best thing to do would probably be to get a few guys to start throwing chairs and desks at the gunman while others went and swarmed him.

Actually, the most effective thing that anyone did against him was barricading the doors with tables, it seems. At least that's what I picked up from the coverage I saw during dinner today, though I really wasn't impressed by the anchor's work during it.

[Sandwich]

That's a defensive measure though. Ask Sun Tzu (or whatever his name was) - you'll never win by playing defensively.

[Ghostavo]

That's a defensive measure though. Ask Sun Tzu (or whatever his name was) - you'll never win by playing defensively.

Sun Tzu didn't work with firearms and untrained civilians. It's a college, not an army base.

[Grey Wolf]

And though it may not have stopped the shooter, it did prevent him from shooting the students in that room.

[jr2]

Hmm, I just read some of the news links from DrudgeReport - apparently, he'd written several disturbing English essays and his teacher had urged him to get counseling.  Also, the handguns were legally bought, since he had a green card, as long as he didn't have any felonies... hmm, but it says he filed the serial numbers off, I don't get that.  If you're planning on going on a suicidal rampage, what's the point?  Anyways, the links I followed from Drudge were:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3048108&page=1
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070417/D8OIHK281.html

[Polpolion]

You know unless someone was actually being shot at in one of these types of situations, no one really has the right to say "why didn't they do this/that?" or "I would've done this instead of being a coward"

[jr2]

I know, but I believe they're saying, from a logical standpoint, what should have been done.  Of course, that assumes that you can force logic to overrule your fears, which not everyone can do.  (Not that it's their fault; I don't know if I could do it.. I certainly hope so, but I also hope I never find out.)

[brozozo]

Have you read his plays yet?

http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/

Bravo, if I do say so myself.

[Mr. Vega]

Let the descrimination of loners begin.

[NGTM-1R]

hmm, but it says he filed the serial numbers off, I don't get that.  If you're planning on going on a suicidal rampage, what's the point?  Anyways, the links I followed from

He may not have intended it to be a suicide run?

[Herra Tohtori]

Or perhaps someone framed him to be the shooter and is in fact still loose somewhere?

[Grey Wolf]

Doesn't seem very likely. They have eyewitnesses to him being the gunman for the second incident, though I think they've yet to officially state that he was the gunman in the first incident, though it was the same gun.

[Nuke]

arise my nihilistik minions and cause death! muhahahaha!
ok, that was definately called for, they are my views. we need the occasional reminder that our race still is not civilized. expensive but nessicary

[jr2]

Still uncalled for.  >:-|  what the heck are you thinking?  I'm of the opinion that 9/11 was a needed wake up call, but I didn't post somewheres about radical Islamics joining the jihad.  Think, then post.

[Goober5000]

Are you saying that you would have lead a valiant uprising against the gunman? Rallying your fellow students to bring him down?

**** that, you'd be against the wall with everyone else praying his clip runs dry before he gets to you.

Naturally, nobody can say for certain what they'd do until they're actually in such a situation.  But I would think that, given a choice between certain death lined up against the wall execution-style, and uncertain death making a last stand, someone would choose the latter.  It's been done before.

This, of course, assumes the "execution-style" report is accurate; it would be quite a bit dicier in the room posted by Unknown Target.  But even there, you might be able to throw enough books, backpacks, and laptops at the guy that he'd get distracted long enough for someone else to tackle him.  Having football players there would be even better.