[ScorpIan]

I just downloaded a pack off uTorrent, which contained the following files -

-Freespace 2 full install
-Freespace 2 Cutscenes
-Freespace 1 Cutscenes
-Launcher 5.3
-3.6.8 Beta MediaVPs
-CVS Builds 4/25 which new loadout system
-DerelictSCP MOD (which Voices)
-FS_port 3.0.3 MOD
-Transcend Mod
-Awakenings 3.0 (which voices) and Destiny of Peace 3.0 campaigns inside fs_port 3.0.3 mod.
-Low-end 3D Shockwaves
-HTL Apollo for FS_port
-HTL Ursa
-HTL Moloch
-Lighspeed Nebula Pack

However when I tried to play it the following error messages came up -

Error : Unrecognzined command line
parameter - spec File: H:\_FS2-DEV\3 VPK\code\Cmdline\cmdline
CPP
Line: 393

Call Stack

FS2.exe 004f9a06()
FS2.exe 004f9b79()
FS2.exe 0049i0d()
FS2.exe 00409232()
FS2.exe 005ec635()

Kernnel32.dll  7c8i6d4f()


I have NO idea what all this means or even how to fix anything. But i just kept on clicking ok and it started the game ok! However when I go to the door which starts the campagna it tells me to insert disk 2. But all the info is already on the computer...isn’t it? 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Scorp.

[asyikarea51]

Ah, use the Launcher to start the game. Don't use FS2.exe.

In the meantime, you may want to update several files in that pack - it's quite old. Especially the MediaVPs, the Launcher and your builds. Head over to the Source Code Project and the Freespace Upgrade Project forums for those.

[jr2]

Erg.  Make sure you have Open AL installed.  Then, get Turey's Installer and do a clean install.  (Latest version of SCP is 3.6.9, MVP 3.6.8 Zeta - yours is outdated.)  If you want a DVD, get hip63's DVD... just be sure to rename the folder FS1Port (or whatever the port was named) to its official one, fsport.  Other than that fsport naming error, hip63's DVD is fully compatible with Turey's Online Installer/updater.  Oh, and if you did need the disk (you don't), you'd be able to achieve that by using a free disk emulation software such as Slysoft's Virtual Clone Drive (easy), or DAEMON Tools (more advanced) (Google them if you want).  They take a disk image file, and pretend to be a CD/DVD drive, reading from a file on the hard disk instead of an actual disk.  Does this help any?

[asyikarea51]

I loaded up FS2.exe directly just to check and got the same error. I think that's what he's doing - launching the game directly instead of using the launcher.

[jr2]

FS2.exe is retail.  FS2_open_3_6_9.exe is SCP  FreeSpace2.exe is Retail launcher (launches FS2.exe).  Launcher.exe is SCP Launcher.  The Retail files are coded to ask for the disks.

[asyikarea51]

Yes, what I'm saying is he should be using Launcher.exe instead of the retail exe's (FS2.exe/Freespace2.exe).

I got the exact same "call stack" error when I tried the retail EXE.

[jr2]

The reason retail is bugging out, IIRC, is because some of the registry values aren't in place that it needs.  SCP only installs the ones that it needs... If you actually install retail, and then install the SCP over it, then I believe it will work, however, it will still ask for CDs.

But that is beside the point.

[asyikarea51]

Point taken, I stand corrected.

[karajorma]

You shouldn't.

I'd bet money that you're the one who's correct here.


The version in the torrent is old but it should work. The reason why it isn't working is because Shivan's torrent sets up a bunch of command line options that the retail.exe can't deal with. The problem has been resolved in newer versions of the launcher and exes but it's certainly not the show stopper jr's making it out to be.


Instead of forcing this guy to redownload over a gigabyte of data he already has I'd suggest this. Delete or remove any file from your Freespace2 folder which you don't see in this picture. (Don't worry if you don't have them all).



You can probably keep the other folders actually. That will save you redownloading those mods too (although it's possible that the versions you have are older. So you may wish to try them and only download them using the installer if you encounter problems with them)

That will give you a retail FS2 install (Minus cutscenes). Now simply run Turey's installer and install as if you already had FS2 installed. 

[asyikarea51]

You shouldn't.

I'd bet money that you're the one who's correct here.

Who, me? I shouldn't? (no sarcasm intended, I am clueless...)

Well I came to HLP through Shivan's pack in the first place, and I didn't come across this error. Must be I figured out beforehand that Launcher.exe is used to start the game, or something...

[jr2]

The reason retail is bugging out, IIRC, is because some of the registry values aren't in place that it needs.  SCP only installs the ones that it needs... If you actually install retail, and then install the SCP over it, then I believe it will work, however, it will still ask for CDs.

But that is beside the point.

I was just pointing out why Retail wasn't working.  Not why the SCP wasn't working.  Good point about keeping the retail data for Turey's Installer, though - wasn't thinking of that.

Point taken, I stand corrected.

kara's right and wrong.  Nothing wrong with what you said, and I was just blathering on about something I noticed, which is that you were talking about using FS2.exe, and that if you want Retail to work, IIRC, you have to use it's installer, as the Open Installer doesn't copy some of the reg settings.  Anywasy...

@SkorpIan;
Do what kara suggested

@kara: Must have been some misunderstanding... oh well.

[karajorma]

Who, me? I shouldn't? (no sarcasm intended, I am clueless...)

Well I came to HLP through Shivan's pack in the first place, and I didn't come across this error. Must be I figured out beforehand that Launcher.exe is used to start the game, or something...

And that was my point. You'd actually gotten the correct answer and had allowed jr2's post to persuade you that you hadn't. I didn't see a single thing you posted that was actually incorrect.

The reason retail is bugging out, IIRC, is because some of the registry values aren't in place that it needs.  SCP only installs the ones that it needs... If you actually install retail, and then install the SCP over it, then I believe it will work, however, it will still ask for CDs.

But that is beside the point.

I was just pointing out why Retail wasn't working.  Not why the SCP wasn't working.

So was I.

You are incorrect on why retail wasn't working. It's nothing to do with registry values not being set. In fact IIRC it's the reverse. Shivan's pack is somehow setting the CmdLineOptions registry value to a set of command line options that the SCP will run quite happily with (or a previous SCP install has done that). The problem is that FS2 retail is choking on those same entries (It used to be the case that when running retail you used to have to run the SCP launcher, choose all options off and then run FS2 Retail in order to clear the problem).

kara's right and wrong.  Nothing wrong with what you said, and I was just blathering on about something I noticed, which is that you were talking about using FS2.exe, and that if you want Retail to work, IIRC, you have to use it's installer, as the Open Installer doesn't copy some of the reg settings.

Except AFAIK I'm not wrong. Retail does not need an installer to set any registry options at all in order to work. And if you need proof of that look at HotU. Neither version ever included a method of setting the registry and with the exception of a few esoteric problems which I've never been certain are actually due to the registry it's worked fine for the vast majority of people who have used it.

[jr2]

Hmm... we can test this.  I'll check, I coulda swore FS wouldn't work right without the reg settings...  I'll get back to you later.  (I imagine you're right, but now I'm curious.)

[ScorpIan]

Wow thanks guys for the help - but now their is another prob! No matter what I do to try and start FS2 it always comes up with an illegal operation error - even if i go through the installer. I have a clean backup of all the files on disks, should i just delete all that is on the computer now and just load the clean backups? Then do as you guys suggested?

Plus the computer with FS2 on it is not connected to the net, so is their any other way for me to download the updated you wanted without initialling FS2 onto the computer connected to the net? ie. get then from another forum?

Thanks again!

Scorps

[asyikarea51]

With very little details on the error message it'd be hard to help you out.

Though if I was in your situation, I'd take your original torrent, use Launcher.exe, click on "Browse" for an EXE file to choose (in your case the CVS builds - they usually have fs2_open_r followed by a date on them), click "Apply" and then click "Run". (Or look at the other tabs to set up the graphics and other things before running.)

Then when I know for certain that the game works, I'd search the forums for any file updates (your builds, MediaVPs and Launcher are outdated - current stable build is 3.6.9, current MediaVPs is 3.6.8 Zeta I think, current Launcher is 5.5a).

CVS EXE's are usually not stable.

Plus the computer with FS2 on it is not connected to the net, so is their any other way for me to download the updates you wanted without initialling FS2 onto the computer connected to the net? ie. get then from another forum?

That means you probably can't use Turey's installer, but even if you did, I don't know how to help you because I'm not familiar with it.

Was there a version number in your torrent, like 1.0, or 1.5c or something like that?

[jr2]

Hmm.  I think hip63's DVD would work.  The link to the torrent is in my sig, but I think it's slow...  the only thing you need to do is change fs1port or theportv3 whatever, change it to fsport.

[karajorma]

Yes but again it's a big download that would make ScorpIan have to download about a gigabyte of data he already has. It's silly to do this when there is a much lower bandwidth alternative available. At least give him the choice.

Plus the computer with FS2 on it is not connected to the net, so is their any other way for me to download the updated you wanted without initialling FS2 onto the computer connected to the net? ie. get then from another forum?

You can get everything you need from HLP. The installer is just a much newbie friendly way of doing things.

Basically all you need to do is replace the exes with the one from here. You want the Launcher, FRED and FS2_open package. You should also replace the movies you have with the ones on that thread but this is not urgent. The .avi ones you have will work (probably) until the next version of FS2_Open.

Then you need to replace the mediavps (i.e everything in the mediavps folder) with these. Be sure to download the 710 patch vps from the same post as they are needed.

Ant that's it. You might find it easier to use the DVD which will do it all for you but that isn't the only way you can get the files you need.

If you need more help my Freespace FAQ has a guide on how to download and install the SCP. Just ignore the links though. The ones I gave you here are more up to date.

[jr2]

Hmm.  Some time or another, I should compile a list of linkies to the latest SCP stuff & post it.