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Offline redmenace

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
Not to put a downer on things but justice is "strangely satisfying" these days?

She deserves the entirety of her sentence, no more no less, and the amount of media coverage wasted on her is inevitable but a waste. The sad thing being that when she gets out, she'll no doubt make a boat load of money from selling her stories or whatever.

 

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Thing is, what is so 'devastating' about this unspecified illness that she cannot spend time in Jail. People who are dying of Terminal Illnesses can go to jail. Personally I think this illness is 'fear of damage to her reputation'.

Yes, the Jail sentence is unusual, but it's not cruel, certainly had, after she been caught and summonsed to court, she stopped using her car and started showing some effort to consider herself bound by the same laws as the rest of the people then I would have thought it a bit harsh, but she didn't just break the law, she flaunted it.

 

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Superior Court Judge Michael T. Sauer was apparently unmoved by the pleas of Hilton's lawyers to send her back to home confinement because of an unspecified medical condition. He ordered Hilton returned to a Los Angeles County jail to serve the rest of her 45-day sentence for violating probation in an alcohol-related reckless driving case.
45-****ing-days!? Are you ****ting me?! Christ, from they way she acted in court, I expected her to be going away for months, not for less than 3 weeks! When I read that, I could literally feel what little sympathy I had evaporating.

Suck it up, you spoilt *****.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2007, 11:53:47 am by Mefustae »

 

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
Well, it is a bit high for the crime commited, however, she expected special treatment on account of being 'her', she wanted her position as a 'public figure' to be taken into account, and it was, the simple fact is she expected to get off easier, whereas the court decided her public role model position meant she should be made an example of, which I'm glad about.

 

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
I think her punishment is fully justified, if anything it's soft.
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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
LOL Well, personally, I think it's funny to see the spoiled brat actually have to come to terms with the fact that the rules apply to her too, but, from a strictly law-book point of view, the sentence is a severe one for the crime, however, the judge probably took into account her 'role model' status, and the fact that even after being caught, she continued to publically flaunt the very law she had been arrested under.

 

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
she was driving drunk, then driving on a suspended license twice during her probation.
IIRC in most European countries, she'd have probly gone to jail after the first drunk driving charge. so I think she got of easy.
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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
She did compared to most European countries, there's a very strong chance she would have lost her license for 5 years in most countries, as well as serving a longer term in jail. But, apparently, the most common punishment for those crimes there, according to the Sheriff who is, I'll admit, biased, is House Arrest. Of course, that's kind of dependent on what you define as 'House' and Paris has shown only limited understanding of the term 'Arrest'.

Thing is, it was probably only a matter of time before she decided she would simply 'die' if she didn't go shopping and end up being re-arrested anyway ;)

Edit: Just wanted to add, I watched the report on BBC, I did notice a large number of court officials attempting to suppress a giggle as the Press Release was read out ;)

 

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
Our society (the western one) has a problem with celebrities. We hate them, of course, but we all want to be like them and (the younger generations especially) try very hard to emulate their behavior.

(NOTE: when i saw "we" i mean the average idiot. Not HLP we.)
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LOL Exactly, it's not that people are idiots exactly, it's that particuarly young people have a very large need to be noticed, I could go into the whole hormones etc, but really, what it boils down to is establishing a role in society for themselves.

I put part of the blame here on Media, there is a projected image in the Western hemisphere that if you are not 'Someone', you are 'No-one', if you don't wear 'this', you aren't 'someone' etc. That means people like Paris Hilton, who is in the public eye, gets used as a role model, she profits from it usually, she's obviously 'successful' (in truth she is rich, not successfull, her father was the successfull one - and yes, there's one to many of something in the word 'successfull') and so people try to emulate her.

Thing is, when you are a Role Model, and she certainly embraced the role when it was going in her direction, some strange rules apply to your life, shopping will earn you money because it's good advertising. Breaking the law will get your ass kicked, because the legal system understands what is known as 'parent power'. Any lawyer can argue that, as a role model, Paris should be more expected to set a good example to the children of America. It is an undefendable accusation because it is 'for the children'.

Did she choose her lifestyle? Not as such, I don't think she's so much stupid, I just think she's never had any need to learn, hopefully this will come as an education.

 

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
she was driving drunk, then driving on a suspended license twice during her probation.
IIRC in most European countries, she'd have probly gone to jail after the first drunk driving charge. so I think she got of easy.

That's the crux of  the whole situation for me. I mean, what a stupid thing to be sent down for. Not like she couldn't afford a cheauffer.

And where would she need to go that would be so urgent ? work ?

 

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
45-****ing-days!? Are you ****ting me?! Christ, from they way she acted in court, I expected her to be going away for months, not for less than 3 weeks!

45 / 7 = 6.428571428571...


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Offline Polpolion

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
45-****ing-days!? Are you ****ting me?! Christ, from they way she acted in court, I expected her to be going away for months, not for less than 3 weeks!

45 / 7 = 6.428571428571...


Math is fun!


You beat me to it. Anyway, his point remains. All it is is a month and a half.

 

Offline redmenace

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
Not to put a downer on things but justice is "strangely satisfying" these days?

She deserves the entirety of her sentence, no more no less, and the amount of media coverage wasted on her is inevitable but a waste. The sad thing being that when she gets out, she'll no doubt make a boat load of money from selling her stories or whatever.
The point I found entertaining was that she was in histerics. She deserved a much harder sentence. In that regard I am deeply unsatisfied and ashamed. I thought it went without saying.
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Offline Agent_Koopa

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
You beat me to it. Anyway, his point remains. All it is is a month and a half.

When's the last time you spent a month and a half in jail? It's a harder sentence than it usually is for an offense of similar magnitude. If you think it should be more, start a petition.
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Offline Polpolion

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
You beat me to it. Anyway, his point remains. All it is is a month and a half.

When's the last time you spent a month and a half in jail? It's a harder sentence than it usually is for an offense of similar magnitude. If you think it should be more, start a petition.

Think about it: a month and a half. That's all. I don't quite know why you think that is a lot. unless you spent a month and a half in prison

 

Offline Mefustae

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
45 / 7 = 6.428571428571...


Math is fun!
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Despite being reincarcerated, she could still be released early. Inmates are given a day off their terms for every four days of good behavior, and her days in home detention counted as custody days. It appeared that Friday would count as her sixth day. Baca indicated she would serve about 18 more days.
18 / 7 = 2.5714285...

Reading the article to understand what i'm talking about is fun, too! :)

 

Offline Agent_Koopa

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Re: Something strangly satisfying about this...
Reading the article to understand what i'm talking about is fun, too! :)

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Regardless of that, however, time served is still time that the defendant has served. Here in Canada, time served counts double, because for that period of time the defendant was held without a conviction. It's up to the judge whether to give them credit for the time they've been in jail. Paris Hilton may not serve all of the sentence we expected her to, but that is not her fault or that of the judge. It is law. Petition your local lawmaker.
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18 / 7 = 2.5714285...
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