[TrashMan]

How could you forget how old you are?????

Early onset of senility????

I don't celebrate my bithdays... 25...26....jut 2 months difference so I wasn't far off anyway.

[Prophet]

But I hear she had the habit of cutting herself, which I have lately been thinking would have been quite interesting. But she also was crazy for horses, and I have to draw the line at something...

No, not the horses!  Anything but the horses!   

You're telling me you wouldn't want a scarred bad ass ***** to ravage you day and night?

And I disdain horses. Not that they ever did anything to me. But as a kid, during the times when girls were still icky, I got so sick of them always go on and on about their horses and horse magazines and other horse apparel. I still kinda have that "I hate horsies" gear stuck in...

[Windrunner]

getting back on topic.

I asked this girl out to a movie in highschool.  she was pretty cute, and in a few of my classes.  We went and saw "The World is not Enough" and things are going pretty well, we chatted for a bit, i even did the wonderfully high school "put your arm around her with a yawn."  We sat down for a coffee afterwards to wait for our folks to come pick us up, and she says to me...

"so, when i said yes, I didn't realize this was a date...I'm not interested in seeing anyone."

I thought i had made my intentions pretty clear, and needless to say i was crushed, and was at a loss for words for the remaining few minutes.  Looking back on it now, its rather funny, and it turned out she really wasn't interested in seeing anyone (as far as i know, she still isn't.)

Just one of my many dating horror stories

Dude you have to realize that chicks are allways testing the guy to see what kind of person they are going out with. So do not ever feel bad beacuse she said something like that, instead you should have answered her with something like: "Good, beacue I am not intrested in dating you either, just beacuse your hair is to big" or something like that. You have to tease her all the time, to create attraction.

 And one tip to all of you, taking your date to movies is a BAD idea. Take them somewhere that they don't expect so that you can get to know her better, and thatswhy taking her to see a movie is a bad idea.

[Thor]

Good tips all, that I have already taken into account.

Fortunately my dating skills have greatly improved since those high school days filled with much dating stupidity!  Women, you may have confused me then...but you confuse me much less now!  well slightly less....

nah women still do things that make no sense

[Roanoke]

so, still confused then ?

[Alikchi]

Poor heterosexual bastards. 

Movies really aren't a bad idea for a first date. On a first date, you want to keep things as smooth and stable as possible. It may be boring, but the last thing you want to do is swing wildly and miss. It's really hard to **** up a movie.

[NGTM-1R]

To be fair, this is about the first formal date we had. That helps explain some of the things that happened, and it also means you need to bear in mind that we were already very close.

Her name was **** ***; I met her when I was senior in high school. I was pretty sure I was in love with her, despite my tendancy to try and talk myself out of that conclusion.

The date itself? I asked her to senior prom. I intended it to still be a kind of casual thing. It was about a week before when I realized she wasn't going to let that happen. Why? She suddenly asks if it would be too much trouble to get a room for after. Now I've been seeing the girl for most of the year, I'm fairly sure I'm in love with her, she's given every indication she feels the same, but we've never gone much further than a kiss on the cheek and some snuggling. Honestly, I was okay with that. This came as a bit of a shock. But I agreed to do it; she did ask, and she knew me well enough to know if worse came to worse I would not care in the slightest if she backed out of the implied offer there.

The date itself went...well, perfectly. To this day the dress she wore remains probably the sexiest piece of clothing I've ever seen (which is vaguely amusing to me considering it showed very little skin indeed), we both had a lot of fun, she commented repeatedly on how handsome I was in a tux. The after, the hotel room, that went...well, nothing has quite compared since, but since has been a little few (I count two).

So what's the horror story?

Two days later she stopped speaking to me. Completely. I was lucky if she acknowledged me before she bumped into me. Four years have passed and she still will not speak to me. I see her often, as her older brother was and is one of my better friends.

I have never found out why.

[Polpolion]

To be fair, this is about the first formal date we had. That helps explain some of the things that happened, and it also means you need to bear in mind that we were already very close.

Her name was **** ***; I met her when I was senior in high school. I was pretty sure I was in love with her, despite my tendancy to try and talk myself out of that conclusion.

The date itself? I asked her to senior prom. I intended it to still be a kind of casual thing. It was about a week before when I realized she wasn't going to let that happen. Why? She suddenly asks if it would be too much trouble to get a room for after. Now I've been seeing the girl for most of the year, I'm fairly sure I'm in love with her, she's given every indication she feels the same, but we've never gone much further than a kiss on the cheek and some snuggling. Honestly, I was okay with that. This came as a bit of a shock. But I agreed to do it; she did ask, and she knew me well enough to know if worse came to worse I would not care in the slightest if she backed out of the implied offer there.

The date itself went...well, perfectly. To this day the dress she wore remains probably the sexiest piece of clothing I've ever seen (which is vaguely amusing to me considering it showed very little skin indeed), we both had a lot of fun, she commented repeatedly on how handsome I was in a tux. The after, the hotel room, that went...well, nothing has quite compared since, but since has been a little few (I count two).

So what's the horror story?

Two days later she stopped speaking to me. Completely. I was lucky if she acknowledged me before she bumped into me. Four years have passed and she still will not speak to me. I see her often, as her older brother was and is one of my better friends.

I have never found out why.

That still probably kills most first dates...

[redmenace]

Poor heterosexual bastards. 

Movies really aren't a bad idea for a first date. On a first date, you want to keep things as smooth and stable as possible. It may be boring, but the last thing you want to do is swing wildly and miss. It's really hard to **** up a movie.

That answers the one question I have been wondering since the begining of this thread.

But I disagree, it really depends on the girl or guy. Some people like substance to a first date. Also movies are seen as sometimes too safe. Girls particularly want to be impressed by how creative you can be on a first date. But then creativity also needs inspiration! Sometimes it is a good idea to pair it with dinner immediatly afterwords. This way you can talk about the movie. This also allows gives you the opportunity to get her plastered. Because heaven forbid any guy rely upon his personality or charm to swoon a woman or man.

[haloboy100]

It's really hard to **** up a movie.

A movie would be a horrible choice for me...hell, my normal friends hate watching movies with me, i just talk to damned much...
and as for girls I'm the only geek in my grade...so understand if I've never dated before. There is this one guy who is nerdier then me, but he gets it off so easy cause he's Asian and half my damned country (Canada, go figure) is Asian as well so they like support him or something.

The pitiful thing is i don't even look geeky. No glasses, and at 6 feet i'm the tallest in my grade, some people say i even have a good build if i worked out...

Then again i know how young i am so I'm not gonna get mixed up in any of that crap...I mean, half the kids in my grade have been dating and making out since they were like, what...10 ****ing years old?

[Alikchi]

Poor heterosexual bastards. 

Movies really aren't a bad idea for a first date. On a first date, you want to keep things as smooth and stable as possible. It may be boring, but the last thing you want to do is swing wildly and miss. It's really hard to **** up a movie.

That answers the one question I have been wondering since the begining of this thread.

Haha! I should have made that clear.

But I disagree, it really depends on the girl or guy. Some people like substance to a first date. Also movies are seen as sometimes too safe. Girls particularly want to be impressed by how creative you can be on a first date. But then creativity also needs inspiration! Sometimes it is a good idea to pair it with dinner immediatly afterwords. This way you can talk about the movie. This also allows gives you the opportunity to get her plastered. Because heaven forbid any guy rely upon his personality or charm to swoon a woman or man.

Points taken. I suppose it depends on the girl or guy. I've taken guys out to do the standard dinner and a movie thing before, but only if I don't know them very well. Movies do give you something to talk about.

If I know we share an interest I work it out that way. Like the last date I went on, we had some pizza and then played Super Smash Bros and Megaman for hours The guy before that, we went shopping. Whatever works.

A movie would be a horrible choice for me...hell, my normal friends hate watching movies with me, i just talk to damned much...
and as for girls I'm the only geek in my grade...so understand if I've never dated before. There is this one guy who is nerdier then me, but he gets it off so easy cause he's Asian and half my damned country (Canada, go figure) is Asian as well so they like support him or something.

The pitiful thing is i don't even look geeky. No glasses, and at 6 feet i'm the tallest in my grade, some people say i even have a good build if i worked out...

Then again i know how young i am so I'm not gonna get mixed up in any of that crap...I mean, half the kids in my grade have been dating and making out since they were like, what...10 ****ing years old?

Better to talk too much than to clam up cause you're nervous. You sound like you shouldn't really have a problem with girls, and besides, considering how old you are, it isn't something you have to worry about. I didn't date until I was 16, I think most guys as nerdy as us are the same way at least.
Good things come to those who wait.

[haloboy100]

am I the only person here that thinks movies are a crappy substitute for awkward silence? 

i guess I'm messed then...

[Alikchi]

am I the only person here that thinks movies are a crappy substitute for awkward silence? 

i guess I'm messed then...

Well, it's easier to segue into making out from a movie than it is from awkward silence, if that's any incentive. 

[haloboy100]

Point.

[Nuclear1]

am I the only person here that thinks movies are a crappy substitute for awkward silence? 

Definitely.  To be completely honest, I've only really gone out on dates once or twice, and neither were to movies.  The first was to Starbucks for some coffee, and then to a basketball game at my high school.  The second was at the mall with a bunch of her girlfriends and her dress shopping while I carried stuff around, then to Steak & Shake (that's a Midwest fastfood chain that is megasuperior to any other such chain in the US).  

Of course, then I found out she was cheating on me and sleeping with some dirtbag who had come back from Air Force basic training for a week or so before he left for RAF Mildenhall.  Damned near felt like getting the kid fired from his job for a while (since what he did was essentially statutory rape).

[Flipside]

Heh, I can't pay attention at movies, the idea of sitting still for an hour and a half just watching something happen seems mind-numbingly dull. That's why I have to watch stuff on DVD and just take breaks when I feel my attention wandering

[Goober5000]

It's really hard to **** up a movie.

It happens.  In high school, the one and only time I went out with this girl I had a super crush on, we were going to see Titan A.E.  Good, fun popcorn flick; worth watching; I highly recommend it, even today.  When we got to the theater, we found out that it wasn't showing at its scheduled time because of some stupid technical reason.  So, at a loss, we decided to see Me, Myself, and Irene, because it looked like it would be funny.  Big, awkward mistake. We went out for dinner afterwards and I had to struggle for conversation, because the movie didn't provide a springboard like I had hoped.

And then I inhaled some of the spice mix from a steak fry and spent half the rest of the dinner as if I had been shot in the face with pepper spray.

Her name was **** ***...

I've asterisked that out; she may not want this publicized.

Two days later she stopped speaking to me.

Doesn't surprise me TBH.  I've heard too many anecdotes where premature consummation ruins a friendship.

[jr2]

There is this one guy who is nerdier then me, but he gets it off so easy cause he's Asian and half my damned country (Canada, go figure) is Asian as well so they like support him or something.

Hmm, is he a computer geek?  If so, does he know about FS:SCP?  *prods haloboy*  Go get'em! 

[NGTM-1R]

Well, it's not her real name actually. Just what I knew her as. Granted the last was the same, but...

I don't know. I felt rather blindsided. I still do. It was the time lag that made no sense. For two days we were closer than ever. The morning after she wanted to know what I thought about an engagement ring! That's a pretty damn big thought to take into serious consideration at 18; but I had, and so had she. You must bear in mind we had been close for a year and been friendly for two or three times that. If this was premature...you get the idea. She knew me too well to think what happened was her only or even a good option if it had been too much too fast in retrospect. That is the pain, the irony, the cruelty of it. It is not just that I do not know, I cannot even guess why she broke it off in such a fashion.

I think, Goob, you're speaking from your religious leanings here. At the time I was a practicing Catholic. (If you want to trace my lapse from that...well she's a good place to start, not from what happened with her but from what happened after her. There is nothing like seeing a year of hope, struggle, and prayer your every waking moment nullified in under ten minutes to make you question the existence of a benevolent God.) Granted two semesters of living in the dorms at SDSU may have given me a skewed perspective, but in the end, as long as it stays in the relationship sexual activity is generally not a disruptive thing.

[Windrunner]

And then I inhaled some of the spice mix from a steak fry and spent half the rest of the dinner as if I had been shot in the face with pepper spray.

That is just plain bad luck G. .

What i have learned from my previous relationship and dates  is that most guys like us that are nice, geeks and so on try it to hard to make girls to like us by beeing a niceguy or somekind of gentelman. But there are extremly few girls or women that fall for that, most of them look for a guy who is cocky and funny, and ofcourse there are those girls who fall for the biggest assholes on this godgiven earth.

When you are out on a date, go out to have fun and try not to think to mutch how you can please her.

What we dudes need to understand is that falling in love or creating an attraction is NOT a CHOICE that we kan make, in other words it is not rational.