[Prophet]

Oh goodie, personal grudge. And both are just too stupid to stop dragging helpless threads in it. Well thats the last we've seen you guys I hope.

Once you arrive in Monkey Town, Kazan is soo going to make you his *****es...

[WMCoolmon]

I don't agree with the sexist negative generalizations, I don't agree with the sexist positive generalizations.

Generally I've found that asking girls out is the fastest way to ruin a relationship. No matter who it is. Even the most intelligent woman will often turn into a condescending asshole the instant that I ask her out (or she thinks I'm going to ask her out.) It's very rare for me to meet someone who actually appreciates being asked out. Which is ironic, from my POV, because it seems that women choose to provide the majority of the 'risk'. Have a great friendship with a girl? Forget it. That seems to be even worse because then you know her and can be more of a threat.

Obviously I'm not a girl, so I don't know exactly why so many women choose to act this way. Neither do most women; they don't even bother to consider the consequences of what they're doing, they just label a guy negatively and be done with it.

So I used to recommend to people that they ask girls out, but now I generally don't. Women seem to be more likely to be assholes because they expect to be spoiled by attention and to be able to take guys for granted and treat them like dirt. There's still enough chivalry alive in society today that people have issues with people who respond in kind to women.

So I don't think that blind faith works any more, or that you should automatically assume that you're not getting any just because you haven't asked any girls out. Remember, it's the 21st century, women are fully capable of displaying interest and asking guys out as well. I've yet to hear anyone give a good reason why guys _must_ be expected to ask girls out that doesn't rely on extremely shaky reasoning.

So really, it may just be that you haven't met anyone who's a decent person and/or you get along with. If you don't feel comfortable asking a girl out, she may pick up on that and assume it's insecurity or that you're not really into her, get insulted, and blow you off. So it's in your best interest (and probably everybody else's) that you only ask a girl out because you believe it's worth it and you actually want to, not because somebody told you that it's the only way you're getting laid. (Remember, hookers are legal in at least two counties in Nevada)

That's probably more enticing flamebait than the little personal war we had going on.

[jr2]

Hmm, is he a computer geek?  If so, does he know about FS:SCP?  *prods haloboy*  Go get'em! 

Nah, i tried to get him into Freespace. He got interested...but only because of the star fox: shadows of lylat mod 

go figure. He hates me now, and he never gave it any second thought anyway.

  ... His name here wouldn't be takashi, would it?

[Scuddie]

I wouldnt worry Kal.  He has the advantage of having two strikes more than I do.  His **** talk came out of the blue, my responses did not.  Not one response of mine was uncalled for, and for what it's worth, I handled both his initial flames quite tamely.  I could go back and change them to more appropriate (read: meaner) responses, but TBH, it's not worth my time.  Anyway, as he has still failed to make any valid counterattacks, while I made all of them, which means I win once again.

Anyway, I'll behave, as the next foul thing that comes out of his keyboard will get him monkeyed for a little while, and that will be a sufficient enough retort from you on my behalf.

EDIT:  WMC, I am DEFINITELY insecure in person.  That's one reason I've never had a date.  The fact that most girls I knew as a teenager were stupid and immature didnt help either.  There was one, and only one, exception to that.  However, due to the insecurities, she moved away before I could explain my feelings.  I kick myself every day for that.

* Scuddie starts playing his miniature violin

[Windrunner]

Allright keep this thread ontopic people otherwise it will be closed, and like you said keep your squabbeling outside of the threads and stick to PM instead.

[Sandwich]

What he said, but let me clarify.

Shut up, right now. Don't even bother responding to me telling you to shut up with an "Ok" or a "Yes, master", or whatever the heck you might want to say. I don't care who's in the right and who's in the wrong, nor do I have time to find out, so if I hear of one more peep on this squabble from either of you in ANY thread, that person is getting monkeyed for a month.

[Ashrak]

this link seemes to fit in with the topic: http://break.com/index/first-date-honest-answers.html

[Wobble73]

The thing women find most attractive in men is self belief/confidence. As most men get tongue tied trying to impress a woman, they lose their self confidence. I find the best option is not to look at women as potential mates/dates/whatever but as friends and to try to be myself and have fun.

Of course until I met the wife I wasn't that successful but still!



*Slinks off to the Oh Snap thread to find out what all the fuss is about*

[Alikchi]

Agreed. Confidence is the sexiest thing in the world. But confidence isn't the same as bravado. Just be at ease, and be yourself, and don't think you have to be exceptional. Trying to impress a girl (or guy) is just as likely to freak him or her out.

So be yourself! If he/she doesn't care for you being yourself, then that person isn't worth your time anyways. If you have to force it, it's not worth the effort.

[TrashMan]

WMC, I am DEFINITELY insecure in person.  That's one reason I've never had a date.  The fact that most girls I knew as a teenager were stupid and immature didnt help either.  There was one, and only one, exception to that.  However, due to the insecurities, she moved away before I could explain my feelings.  I kick myself every day for that.

* Scuddie starts playing his miniature violin

I'm only insecure (In the sense that I'm not sure how to approach them) around women that attract me...go figure. And a similar thing happened to me.. Girl moved to the USA before I could asked her out

[Colonol Dekker]

Psych yourself up, rememebr times when you felt invincible like winning a fight or getting an A+ on a test, then realise that the girl you ware after is only a human being, someones daughter, possibly someones sister, and that she has to get up go to the toilet and brush her teeth just like you do. Get up some courage, suck it in, stride up to her.......
Then put rohypnol in her tea Then say hi.........

[IceFire]

I haven't been on any really killer bad dates.  I probably haven't dated enough

The last one was not the greatest...went on a date with a friend and she and I were pretty awkward the whole time.  I think I ended up having to leave after dinner with an excuse of something or other.  At this point I'm not even interested in anyone at all...its just easier being single.  Too much damn trouble and I have so much trouble in other areas right now...once some other stuff gets sorted out a bit maybe then I'll go and find some really great terrible date stories for everyone.

[Mika]

Posted by: Ashrak

this link seemes to fit in with the topic: http://break.com/index/first-date-honest-answers.html

What is this? You mean you don't do it like that?

Reminds me of a situation when I was confronted by an attractive woman asking how her dress looked like. I prefer the classical answers: "Like someone vomited on it" or "Had you wanted my opinion, woman, you should have asked it in a shop. You cannot return those."

I think that's enough for me on contributing on this thread...

[Wobble73]

I like the classic

"Do these jeans make me look fat?"

"No, your fat makes you look fat!" 

[Mongoose]

The more I read of these stories, the gladder I am that I've never had the opportunity to put my personal theory of dating into practice.  That "'tis better to have loved and lost" line looks great on a greeting card, but damned if I buy it; I'd much rather spend my weekends sleeping and gaming than go through the angst of the whole romance thing.

[IceFire]

The more I read of these stories, the gladder I am that I've never had the opportunity to put my personal theory of dating into practice.  That "'tis better to have loved and lost" line looks great on a greeting card, but damned if I buy it; I'd much rather spend my weekends sleeping and gaming than go through the angst of the whole romance thing.

Apparently its a "good thing" (tm) when it gets going properly.  But I haven't seen that happen...

[Goober5000]

I don't know. I felt rather blindsided. I still do. It was the time lag that made no sense. For two days we were closer than ever. The morning after she wanted to know what I thought about an engagement ring! ...

I think, Goob, you're speaking from your religious leanings here.

I was actually trying to speak purely from secular experience here.  By "premature" I meant moving a relationship faster than the people involved want it to go, or moving it somewhere where one person doesn't want to go.

In other words, perhaps this girl was expecting things to move to an engagement/marriage/lifelong relationship track, and when it somehow became clear that it wasn't, she felt betrayed/tricked/embarrassed or whatever.  Sex is a serious thing; it affects people in deep emotional and yes, spiritual ways.

I hope this doesn't make me sound like a heartless analytical jerk. I am, honestly, sorry that things turned out that way.  Breakups are always very painful, especially when the relationship lasted so long beforehand.
 

Apparently its a "good thing" (tm) when it gets going properly.  But I haven't seen that happen...

I have.  I'm helping a friend get ready for his marriage this Saturday, and he and his fiancée are truly, madly, deeply in love with one another.

[jr2]

I have.  I'm helping a friend get ready for his marriage this Saturday, and he and his fiancée are truly, madly, deeply in love with one another.

  I wish them the best. 

[redmenace]

Thank you for keeping the thread on track admins.

[jr2]

  *looks around* ... since when was it off-track???