[Deepstar]

Hi there,

Yesterday i started to play Freespace 2 again, with the Aeos Affair Campaign.
It runs fine, until the mission, where you have to fight a Shivan Ravana.

After i get closer to the ship i get crazy graphics and a few seconds later (~30) i get an Error Message with "Abnormal Termination".

After this error repeat in the next try i open the Mission with FRED2_OPEN and activated the "Show Models" option, after i get closer to the Ravana Ship again, it disappeared and i was only able to see the turrets. I disable the mod command and try to create a new mission only with a ravana and the player ship. The same problem in Fred and InGame 

Afterward i disable the "-fredhtl" command line and the Ravana was visible after i move the camera close to this ship. After i switch from OpenGL to Direct3d8 in the Video Tab, this Ship and this mission was fine and hasn't a crash.


So it seems that this is an Problem in OpenGL and Hardware Transform & Lightning. But i played Freespace 2 some time ago, the same Version and haven't any problems with the Game (but i don't know if i played with OGL or DX8 last time), so why i've get those graphical errors, i search in the search function and don't find anything about such problems? 

And yes, the Ravana is the only capital ship with such problems so far. But i don't tested Typhon, Sathanas and Colossus, yet.

SCP Launcher Flag Options (Launcher Version 5.5c)

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E:\FreeSpace2\fs2_open_3_6_9.exe -mod Mods\Aeos Affair -spec -glow -env -jpgtga -mipmap -nomotiondebris -2d_poof -noscalevid -missile_lighting -dualscanlines -targetinfo -rearm_timer -ballistic_gauge -3dwarp -warp_flash -fov 0.39 -ambient_factor 10 -spec_exp 7.0 -spec_tube 5.0 -spec_point 8.6 -spec_static 12.8 -no_emissive_light
SCP Launcher Video Options (Other FSAA or AF Settings haven't no effect in this problem)

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Graphics: OpenGL
Resolution: 1024x768
Color Depth: 32 Bit
Texture Filter: Trilinear
Anisotropic Filter: Off
Anti-Aliasing: Off
General Settings: High
[X] Use Large Textures
[X] Fix font disortion problem

In-Game Ravana on OpenGL at 2500 Meters.



In-Game Ravana on Direct3d8 at 2500 Meters.



Ravana in Fred2 with HTL enabled.



Ravana in Fred2 without HTL.



So, what's missing? My System? Here is it:

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CPU: AMD Athlon 64 4000+
RAM: 2 GB DDR2-533
GPU: Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti4200 128 MB
Soundcard: Creative Soundblaster Live! 5.1
OS: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2
DirectX: DirectX 9.0c (June 2007)
I'm using the FS2_Open 3.6.9 Release Builds with 3.6.8 Zeta MediaVPs.

I hope somebody can help me. Is something missing what you need to solve this problem (errorlog?), please say it

Greetings

Deepstar

[Hades]

  This is flaking weird.It may be the Model or the VPS.By the way what is Aeos Affair?Maybe your graphics card?

[Deepstar]

By the way what is Aeos Affair?

An very old Freespace 2 campaign *g* Look here

Maybe your graphics card?

Maybe, but for me it's a very strange problem, it's the only ship in whole FS2 which has this problems. The framerate is okay (avegate 35-45 FPS) and i haven't encountered problems in TBP, WCS and BtRL so far.

[colecampbell666]

I've had the FRED problem happen with several ships in INFA, including the Megaera.

[Hades]

It may be the Mod is corrupted.Or it could be the mods VPs.Hmm try puting the Ravana in the MOD folder.And delete any table files or any other Stuff in data.See if that works.Uhh were can i get this campaign?I want to see if it really is the mod.

[taylor]

It looks basically like the affect produced by a corrupted IBX file.  You can run the game with the -noibx option for a quick test to find out, and if that fixes it then you can just find and delete all of your *.ibx files so that they can be regenerated.  Technically you could just delete the IBX file for the Ravana and be done with it, but usually when you have one corrupted IBX file, there are others too.

[Deepstar]

@taylor
Thanks for the tip with -noibx. But it doesn't help, still the same thing 


@Hades
No, it's not a Mod problem, i still have this when i play without Aeos.

And it doesn't seem to be a Problems with the MediaVPs, too 

I move them out of the FS2 Folder and now the Ravana In-Game remember the error in Fred with HTL, i see only turrets.


Ravana with MediaVPs, so normal FS2 SCP, but with deactivated Mod.


Ravana without MediaVPs, but with FS2_Open EXE and previous Flags.


Both Screenshots with OpenGL.

EDIT: Tested the same with Direct3d in Video Tab, there're no errors, now. See both Ravanas without graphic errors.

[haloboy100]

try running the retail and show us the screenies you get.

[Deepstar]

Okay, the same Mission. Playership & Ravana.


Retail - 1.20 - Direct3d


Retail - 1.20 - 3dfx (sure, looks very similar but it's a little brighter)


EDIT: After i edit this mission to change the enemy ravana to a friendly ship. I've tested all aviable Freespace 2 Ships in the game. It's only the ravana with this Problems in Fred, where i see only turrents when i'm near. Maybe it's an LOD bug? At high range, i don't have any problems to see a correct ravana, but when i move my ship, or the camera (so for Fred also) closer to this ship, i get this error.

[Nuke]

what video card are you using? i hope that 3dfx mode is emulated, because if youre using a voodoo card, my condolences my voodoo3 kicked ass in retail fs2, but if youre running on a 3dfx card, i bet you will get all kinds of trouble.

[Deepstar]

what video card are you using? i hope that 3dfx mode is emulated, because if youre using a voodoo card, my condolences my voodoo3 kicked ass in retail fs2, but if youre running on a 3dfx card, i bet you will get all kinds of trouble.

I said it before Nvidia GeForce 4 Ti 4200 128 MB

Yes, it's an GlideWrapper installed in my system. And yes, it doesn't help to deinstall it, i tried it, too.

[Deepstar]

I solved it!


After i reinstall my Nvidia Graphic Driver, this error is gone   


Topic can be closed But anyway, thanks for your Help! . I haven't expected that this is a Driver Error, because the Ravana was the only ship, but i was wrong.

[Nuke]

no wonder, when i was skimming through i skipped the code section because i assumed it was full of useless to anyone but an scp programmer debug spew