[Wolfy]

Which ships from Wing Commander will be included? all of them or just some of them?

ive never played any of the WC games before unfortunatly so the only place i can find information on ships fom the WC series of games is this section on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wing_Commander_spacecraft

i did a quick check thorugh to see if i could see if it had been brought up before, but i coudlnmt find anything so sorry if this has been asked before.

[Tolwyn]

an excellent source for information on Wing Commander space craft is www.wcnews.com

It is sufficient to say that all of the WC3 craft will be included. A couple of WC2 ships made it into the game. We'll even include a few ships, that were not features in any WC game before (ships like the kilrathi light carrier or terran attack carrier).

[Wolfy]

ah fair enough, so WC Saga is set around the time of WC3 and afterwards then?

[Tolwyn]

WC3 only

[akenbosch]

do we get kilrathi ships as player-flyable? (for gaunlets and multiplayer, of course)

[Tolwyn]

it is ... possible

[Starman01]

Yep, just a simple table modification, for people who want to mod the mod ( I like the sound of that )

[akenbosch]

for the official (finaL) version/patch?

[Tolwyn]

like I said before, it is likely

[Stone48420]

It would be very cool if all the ships where included.  At least all ships that were made into 3d models from Armada and also Wing commander 4.  I really want to see your guys take on the Wraith medium fighter or even some of those Kilrathi Armada ships like the Shiraak Carrier or the Shok'lar stealth fighter.  I know and understand that you guys all have lives and such but it would be very cool to see all those ships in game.

I image a multiplayer mode where players pick a class of fighters light medium or heavy fighters. If they pick light fighter class all combatants will start out with an Hornet once one dies he respawns in an Epee or which ever is the more advanced version of the light fighter.  It just keeps on going until last fighter is gone.  Don't know if I got my point acrossed there?

Anyways great mod I know I don't post often but I still think you guys are doing a great job and please keep up the good work. 

[akenbosch]

in fs multiplayer, you get to choose whatever type of ship you want (as long as its player allowed). but im sure some clever use of SEXPs could make a mission like that, but not a true dogfight.

[karajorma]

I image a multiplayer mode where players pick a class of fighters light medium or heavy fighters. If they pick light fighter class all combatants will start out with an Hornet once one dies he respawns in an Epee or which ever is the more advanced version of the light fighter.  It just keeps on going until last fighter is gone.  Don't know if I got my point acrossed there?

I could see that working once change-ship is fixed to work in multiplayer games. You'd need to somehow check for respawns and work your way down a list of ships using the in-sequence SEXP but I don't consider that to be impossible (and maybe not even that difficult).

[namedjughead]

You guys have made an awesome game here, i can't wait till the next release. I was also wondering what ships would be included in the final release. I'm glad to see you guys including WC2 era ships like the Rapier II, Ferret, ect. Will you try to include some WC1 ships like the Hornet, Scimitar, Dralthi, Salthi, ect? Even if these ships aren't used in the campaign, they would be good to have for third-party missions and multiplayer. Although the ships from WC3 era are more modern and powerful, but in my opinion they are ugly ships. I know that their design was limited by the technology of the early 90's. I think the designs from the first two games are much sleeker and stylish than the ones from three and four.I realise that you guys have lives and family and are doing this for free, and it is greatly appreciated by all us Wing Commander fans. I guess i really want to know if you guys plan on eventually adding the ships too. Again great TC, keep up the awesome work guys.

Here is a link to a free low poly hornet model by Howard Day.
low poly Hornet model

[ZildjianO0]

i'm sure this has been mentioned in another thread because i think i remember reading this but never seeing an answer.  Is the team planning on putting the Banshee in this game?  Technically it's in WC4 but it's considered an old ship by the time we see it... making it perfect to fit in WC3 era.  I seem to remember something about gun convergence being an issue... but it'd still be nice to see in the game... even as a multiplayer only ship.

[Tolwyn]

Actually, that Hornet was included in the early build of the Codename: Hermes back in 2004. The model has been removed since then as well as all WC4 ships we've converted by that point. They won't be featured in the game, but I could (as long as these models work) release them for public use. That is, if somebody is interested in them.

[Stone48420]

Im sure everyone is interested,  I always hoped that the final release we would see a tech room full of wing commander ships as many that were in freespace all from different eras. (Mostly wing commander 4 and earlier)  Is that gonna be difficult Ive seen over the years that you guys made some killer models (MorningStar anyone) Im just hoping to see them all ingame.  Plus multiplayer would be kick ass flying all those ships against each other.  Just image the possiblities.

[Tolwyn]

It's a deal then. I've started putting together a Wing Commander 4 package. Right now it includes Intrepid, Banshee, Avenger, Vindicator and Assault Shuttle (old model). They should work, but I can give no guarantee. These models are 4 years old, which means, that they have not been optimized for the HTL mode, which was implemented back in 2004.

[Scooby_Doo]

BTW I have a near canon banshee and cannon avenger in the works...and a dragon mark 2 & the vindicator 2 both are different from the original.
Also I have a morningstar in the backwoods rotting somewheres  Someday it'll get retextured again.I have a Sarlthi ready to go, just crashes the game without debug info.  Scimitar... ehhh my version is a bit too unique for that.  Oh as for the steltek, I've already released a fighter or was it a scout???  I've got the kilrathi wc2 heavy fighter Jalkthi in the works too.
Dunno if that'll helps 

[gevatter Lars]

The Vindicator looks like its an older Version of the Vindicator instead of a MK2. Might be the texturejob wich is good but reminds me of an old propeller airplain ^_^

[Tolwyn]

A quick update: the package is almost ready. It will contain following WC4 models: Wing Commander 4 models: Avenger, Banshee, Vindicator, Durango-class, Bearcat and Dragon. a prototype of the stormfire cannon will be included.