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Offline diceman111

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Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Ok I havent seen a topic on this game here but I just want to say that I cant wait after that trailer and reading some of the information on the website.
However it didnt say wheter or not is was going to be released for the PC just Next-Gen consoles.

Link: http://www.lucasarts.com/games/theforceunleashed


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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Consoles Only. Unless they pull a Halo.



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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Is it just me or are Force users becoming more and more powerfull with every SW game...

what's next? Pushing a planet into the Sun?

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Mmm, it does seem odd considering it's set during Vaders time and he was supposed to be hugely powerful - more so even than Palpatine.

There's probably some back story to why this is all happening that I haven't read or whatever. There's a lot of books out there etc. and I imagine there's an answer somewhere.

 

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
well it said on the website that the game was being developed by LucasArts and Light&Magic (think that the name of the special effectcompany) and george lucas was supervising the development so it will proberly make some sense but proberly only towards the movies since I dont think that anything other than those counts as canon.(I may be wrong)
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Is it just me or are Force users becoming more and more powerfull with every SW game...

It's actually more that the games are more finally reaching the level of things as seen in the movies or books; limitations prevented them until recently. Jedi can do a whole crapload of things that don't easily translate into game mechanics.
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In some cases that's true - but this is the first time I've seen any Jedi pull a Star Destroyer out of its flight.

To put it another way - in the latest films where Yoda was CG and they could do anything with him - he struggled to move some of the heavier bulkheads and big mechanical stuff about during fights (like the end of the second film, where he fights Dooku).

  

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Is it just me or are Force users becoming more and more powerfull with every SW game...

what's next? Pushing a planet into the Sun?

That's my problem with TFL, too. It's simply too much, and inconsistent.

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I dont think that anything other than those counts as canon

A lot of stuff are canon - novels, comics, and unfortunately, games. TFL will also be as canon as any other games, maybe excluding Rebel Assault.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
In some cases that's true - but this is the first time I've seen any Jedi pull a Star Destroyer out of its flight.

Well, Knight Hammer did get shoved from Yavin IV orbit to the outer edges of the system, but that took the combined effort of the whole academy.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
In my opinion what I've seen in Force Unleashed hype videos/bullshots, that's more like what I would call force... not the stupid arcane magic tricks that were supposed to be force powers in, say, KOTOR games. Apart from the Destroy Droid and Force Wave, it was always faster to just hack the living enemies to pieces with light saber/s or Baragwin assault blade+Bacca's Sword combo.

Also there is the fact that the closest to even-grounded full Force battle we've seen was between Palpatine and Yoda in Revenge. That should give a pretty good gauge at what force users can do at a battle..."So I threw the senate at him. The whole senate! True story!" ;7

Mmm, it does seem odd considering it's set during Vaders time and he was supposed to be hugely powerful - more so even than Palpatine.

Vader at his prime was hugely more powerful than Palpatine, but I reckon being roasted and treated back to live (at least partially) reduced his biomass rather substantially, thus also reducing the available midi-chlorians in his body. Their concentration of them was still off the scale in the parts that were left so the control remained as good as always, but some of the sheer amount of force power was lost AFAIK.

Luke, though, was/is supposedly as strong as his father at his prime, considering he only lost one of his hands... the reason why Vader owned him in Empire was their huge difference in experience and thus control over the force available to them. At even ground and both using the dark side of the force, Luke was the stronger one in Return of the Jedi (and since there is no actual difference in the power of dark and light side, this should also be a reliable gauge at their relative strengths at that point, should they both have used the light side of the Force).

Curiously, even battered and tired, Vader was still strong enough to toss the Emperor to that reactor shaft (although some of that may have to be credited to him being "more machine than man" at that point), but Luke was rather helpless against the Force lightning from Palpatine. Which leads me to think that Luke simply didn't know how the hell to stop the Force lightning, seeing how relatively easy it was for both Yoda and Master Windu in Revenge.

Further down the line, in the extended universe... enter Kyp Durron, who was even more powerful then Luke and thus also stronger than Anakin, which is a lot considering that Anakin was supposedly the prophesized midi-chlorian spawn that brought balance to the force.


Anyway, I'm getting off the topic again... the red line is that Palpatine and Yoda were able to do substantial damage to the surroundings they tossed at each other. Anakin and Luke are stronger in Force, and so are some others. In that perspective, the force abilities in Force Unleashed seem more "realistic" than, say, the already mentioned magic tricks in KOTOR. I never played Dark Forces series (sigh) so I can't really say anything from there... Although I seriously doubt that Palpatine or Vader would have actually kept someone more powerful than them around as Emperor's Hand or in any other role, so there should be som pretty damn good explanation as to why the hell the main character in this game is so strong.


And a single jedi pushing star destroyers around makes absolutely no sense at all. Except if there's a really clever plot device in it. Like saying that the ship in question was not on stabile orbit yet and the clever Jedi simply remote disabled the engines. :p
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
And a single jedi pushing star destroyers around makes absolutely no sense at all. Except if there's a really clever plot device in it. Like saying that the ship in question was not on stabile orbit yet and the clever Jedi simply remote disabled the engines. :p

I was about to say... if you've read the "Revenge of the Sith" book, you note that Obi-Wan was able to reverse the polarity of Grievous' mechanical arms.  With more Force power and control (esp. control) I imagine this Jedi could have like you said, disabled, reduced the power to, or otherwise modified / crippled the engine output... or maybe even just surging the power at some point to trip their equivalent of a breaker.  IDK.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2007, 07:29:37 pm by jr2 »

 

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Meh, I subscribe to the idea of Jedi being as strong as portrayed in the Tartakovsky's Clone Wars series. Mace Windu taking out a couple hundred Super-Battledroids with his bare ****ing hands ftw!

Finally, Jedi actually deserve the reputation and respect they seem to possess in the movies.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2007, 06:50:21 pm by Mefustae »

 

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
I prefer how the force works in I, Jedi and Specter of the Past and Vision of the Future.

this game just looks silly.  too prequel-excessive.

also, it will probably cause continuity errors, and if there's more of those the SW universe is going to implode.
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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Someone go get FractalSponge to work for us?  Or is that a bad idea?

 
Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
I was under the impression Luke got lightning fried in Jedi because he had never seen such a thing before, so he wasn't exactly expecting blue bolts of lightning to come flying at him, and after the first shock, well, you're screwed.

The ISD in the trailer was flying at so low an orbit, I'd be suprised if it wasn't crashing anyway.


But why the hell is Darth Vader's sith apprentice blowing up ISDs anyway?

 

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...and TIEs and Storm Troopers???

IIRC, can't Star Destroyers land on planetary ports?

 

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Re: Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
But why the hell is Darth Vader's sith apprentice blowing up ISDs anyway?


Most likely for the same reason why most serious enemies in TIE Fighter were flying Imperial hardware (Harkov/Zaarin campaigns). Traitors seem to be a big problem in the Empire...

Or maybe it was target practice. :lol: It's not like they have a shortage of Stormtroopers and TIE's...
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Yah, totalitarian regimes do tend to breed corruption (and rebellions :drevil: ).

 

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...and TIEs and Storm Troopers???

IIRC, can't Star Destroyers land on planetary ports?

The Victory was the last (and first) of the Star Destroyer series capable of entering a planetary atmosphere, let alone landing. (Vics can't land, but can hover for close-in bombardment missions.) If an ISD enters a planetary atmosphere on a world anything like what we'd think of as normal, the best it's going to do is burn up a bit (not much, shields will probably protect it most of the way down) and then do a good impression of crashing a sportscar into Ayer's Rock.
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