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Offline Bob-san

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Interesting thing I started here. :lol:

Anyways--Aramaic words & names for ship names works quite well, as most people already know. I actually like some African references.
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This is probably straying off topic, but I'm more concerned with the naming of Shivan wings rather than ships.  The name "Shivans" makes sense, since they're the great destroyers and all.  But I hated how in the original FS, the majority of the wings were named after reincarnations of the Hindu God, which led to directives like "Destroy Rama".  (Yes, I'm Hindu, but the game was just too addicting for me to stop playing...) 

I know they got rid of that in FS2 by using the zodiac for all enemies, but I've seen the old trend cropping up in a handful of campaigns.  It's probably less common today; I don't have a working version of the SCP, so I haven't played most of the campaigns out there.  Still, I was hoping there could be some kind of general consensus to avoid the old trend.

Sorry, I just had to put that out there...  Anyway, back on topic.  As an FF8 fan, I think a name like the GTD Lionheart or GTD Alexander would be great, but I can't see anything from that game appearing as a Shivan ship-- SD Doomtrain just sounds lame.  Though that sparks my memory... wasn't there an SC Sephiroth somewhere in the main FS2 campaign?  Or am I just imagining that?
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There are Seraphim-class bombers, but I don't recall a Sephiroth...
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Sephiroth would be an interesting name. Subtle, no but recognizable, yes. It has a certain ring to it.

Ah, since I just watched End of Evangelion, I can't help but keep on thinking of random religious references. That movie was crazy..
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Sephiroth would be an interesting name. Subtle, no but recognizable, yes. It has a certain ring to it.

Ah, since I just watched End of Evangelion, I can't help but keep on thinking of random religious references. That movie was crazy..

Bah! Try watching the real ending! Eps. 25/26, see if you can understand that!  :D

(actually its quite possible and easy and its a better ending than that silly movie)

 

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I saw those two episodes before seeing the movie. It . . augh, makes no sense.
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I saw those two episodes before seeing the movie. It . . augh, makes no sense.

Then watch them till they make sense!!! :drevil:

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Offline Asuko

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Haha, fine then! I was planning on it someday anyway.
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Going way off topic here...

  

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I saw those two episodes before seeing the movie. It . . augh, makes no sense.

Then watch them till they make sense!!! :drevil:

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wasn't there an SC Sephiroth somewhere in the main FS2 campaign?  Or am I just imagining that?
yes there was... it was in one of the nebular missions, though which one i cant remember

maneuverable ? pfffft. Look at the Basilisk or Aeshma (i think thats how its spelt) . I dont know what class of fighters they are (Heavy assault), but they fly like a retarded seagull.

 

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Pretty sure it was when you discovered the second knossos

 

Offline Asuko

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Ah well, there's no rule against reusing names for other campaigns. It might look bad but hey if it's relevant, It's all good.
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Offline Hellstryker

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I would only reuse a name if the ship survived >_>

 

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I find it ironic that Seraphim is used for one of the Shivan bombers.

Here, we're mostly talking about evil names for evil, Shivan things, but the word "seraphim" actually refers to the highest order of angels in Christian angelic hierarchy. The same sort of thing applies for Lucifer as well (the word has obviously shifted from its original meaning, "light-bearer," and thus makes sense as a Shivan term).

About names, I think Norse mythology is a good source for all sorts, good and evil. The FF series actually borrows very heavily from this area; FFVII does the most. We talked about it briefly (vikings), and FS does have a couple, Loki as mentioned and Mjolnir.
Baldr, Delling (sounds Terran), Aegir, Skuld, Aurvandil, Kvasir...
And we haven't even gotten to the more popular ones like Odin, Thor, Fenrir, etc.

 

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Kindly give me some examples of these supposedly numerous TV shows, then.

A vast majority have never heard of the history you're talking about and so to them he'll always be the Lord of Mordor. I'll repeat myself: it's a completely unsubtle reference. You'd be better off naming the ship after one of Sauron's other names (which are far cooler anyway) if you absolutely must tie a ship to that character. It's like calling a ship Voldemort or something. It jumps out at the player far too much and breaks immersion.

But in any case it doesn't look like we're going to come to an agreement here.

Methinks using names like Morgoth (he's so much more badass than Sauron anyway) or his other, less known names, like Bauglir ("The one who forces").
Or Gothmog (the lord of Balrogs)

there are so many good names, like:

Umarth - the cursed one
Uruloki - the fire serpent
Valaraukar - mighty evil spirit (a.k.a. Balrog)
Thangorodrim - tyrants hills/mountains
rtc...
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Offline Asuko

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Now that actually sounds like a good idea. Use some of the more obscure names from Tolkien.

Norse mythology has always gotten my interest. I just haven't had the chance to learn much of it.
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I agree with Asuko, a name like Thangorodrim sound perfect for a slow moving warship.

 

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I agree with Asuko, a name like Thangorodrim sound perfect for a slow moving warship.

To be worthy of the name, a ship like that would have to be one-of-a-kind, ultra-slow, about the size of two Orions stacked on top of each other, and have lots of little turrets and pointy parts sticking out of the surface.


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