[Kosh]

If the government hasn't engaged in price-fixing for, AFAIK, several decades, why would they do and about-turn now?

Because now it is the most unaffordable it's been in several decades?

[Kosh]

Election update: Clinton and McCain have some pretty sizable leads now.

[NGTM-1R]

Damnation upon Hillary.

[TrashMan]

I like her. Methinks she knows very well what's she doing.

[Rictor]

McCain has pretty much won the GOP.  The Dem race is too close to call, but I'm predicting Obama.

[Nuclear1]

It doesn't really matter who wins the Dem race.

It's going to end up being Obama-Clinton or Clinton-Obama anyway.

[Goober5000]

I like her. Methinks she knows very well what's she doing.

She certainly knows what she's doing, but I can't imagine why you of all people would like her.  Although, on reflection, that actually makes an insane kind of sense.

For the sane people here, this is an interesting article that was linked at DailyPaul today.  It was originally written by Albert Nock in 1936 but applies very well to the political situation today.

[BloodEagle]

Muppets '08

I found that rather insightful. 

[Rictor]

It doesn't really matter who wins the Dem race.

It's going to end up being Obama-Clinton or Clinton-Obama anyway.

Is there a tradition in American politics of asking the runner-up to be Veep? Because from the limited number of elections I can recall, that hasn't been the case. If Hilary became VP, she would totally fill Cheney's Evil Grey Eminence shoes. Hell, if there's one person that I can imagine giving even Cheney nightmares, it's her.

edit: And may I be so bold as to remark, with great bitterness, that people are ****ing sellouts. All the e-warriors who were touting Kucinich/Paul as the only principled candidates, as indeed they are, have now jumped on the Obama bandwagon. Because apparently, eloquent rhetoric and a nice smile are enough to take the place to actual integrity. Right and wrong are decided on the basis of popularity, not on actual positions. Meanwhile, I'll be sitting here in my Cranky Old Man bunker, supporting the same principles tomorrow as I did yesterday.

[Nuclear1]

Reference Kerry/Edwards.

Plus, neither Clinton nor Obama really have a choice. The Dems are so split between the two candidates that I'm fairly certain the voters who supported the loser in the primary won't vote for the winner in the general election. Well, that might be stretching it, but the idea has been floating around and I seriously wouldn't be surprised if they did it.

[Ford Prefect]

edit: And may I be so bold as to remark, with great bitterness, that people are ****ing sellouts. All the e-warriors who were touting Kucinich/Paul as the only principled candidates, as indeed they are, have now jumped on the Obama bandwagon. Because apparently, eloquent rhetoric and a nice smile are enough to take the place to actual integrity. Right and wrong are decided on the basis of popularity, not on actual positions. Meanwhile, I'll be sitting here in my Cranky Old Man bunker, supporting the same principles tomorrow as I did yesterday.

Eh, well Kucinich dropped out, and I would sooner vote for the moldy orange in my fridge than that slightly more bat**** insane version of Old Man Carnes from Oklahoma!, so, as they say, what are you gonna do?

Plus, neither Clinton nor Obama really have a choice. The Dems are so split between the two candidates that I'm fairly certain the voters who supported the loser in the primary won't vote for the winner in the general election. Well, that might be stretching it, but the idea has been floating around and I seriously wouldn't be surprised if they did it.

I think you might be underestimating how terrified a lot of people are of the possibility of another Republican administration. Clinton makes me gag but I will not hesitate one instant to vote for her if she gets the nomination.

[Rictor]

The Dem base will back whoever gets the nod. Neither's supporters are rabid enough to sabotage the other candidate, especially after the loser duly gives his/her endorsement to the winner. In other words, lovers of Diet Coke will consent to drinking Cherry Coke because the prospect of Pepsi appalls them.

Now personally, I would like that to be Hilary, since Obama looks like he could pull the crumbling pieces back together for a few more years. But I have full faith that the rot is so deeply institutional that a single competent leader won't ultimately matter.

Eh, well Kucinich dropped out, and I would sooner vote for the moldy orange in my fridge than that slightly more bat**** insane version of Old Man Carnes from Oklahoma!, so, as they say, what are you gonna do?

Seppuku?

[BloodEagle]

Eh, well Kucinich dropped out, and I would sooner vote for the moldy orange in my fridge than that slightly more bat**** insane version of Old Man Carnes from Oklahoma!, so, as they say, what are you gonna do?

Vote for Nader? 

[Ford Prefect]

My favorite in this election is actually Mike Gravel, despite his lack of a smoking hot wife. But I don't think I can bring myself to throw away my vote, however much self-loathing voting for the viable candidate will cause me. I'll probably spend a few weeks dressing slutty and calling myself a whore in the mirror.

God damn, politics just leaves me feeling in need of a long shower, followed by a frenzied, escapism-induced orgy with simultaneous consumption of cannabis, alcohol, and exotic tropical fruits while Messiaen and Massive Attack play in the background.

Actually everything sort of leaves me in need of that, but with regards to politics I'm actually making a point.

Sorry-- it's late.

[BloodEagle]

God damn, politics just leaves me feeling in need of a long shower, followed by a frenzied, escapism-induced orgy with simultaneous consumption of cannabis, alcohol, and exotic tropical fruits while Messiaen and Massive Attack play in the background.

  

I think this just about sums up how politics makes me feel. 

By the way, you should sign up for therapy....

[Ford Prefect]

But that **** is my therapy.

[BloodEagle]

But that **** is my therapy.

Touché.

[TrashMan]

She certainly knows what she's doing, but I can't imagine why you of all people would like her.

WTF is that supposed to mean?

[Janos]

edit: And may I be so bold as to remark, with great bitterness, that people are ****ing sellouts. All the e-warriors who were touting Kucinich/Paul as the only principled candidates, as indeed they are

On the other hand, recorded legislation

, have now jumped on the Obama bandwagon. Because apparently, eloquent rhetoric and a nice smile are enough to take the place to actual integrity.

What does integrity mean? Seriously. You describe Paul as an "integrate" candidate. What does this mean in practice?

Right and wrong are decided on the basis of popularity, not on actual positions. Meanwhile, I'll be sitting here in my Cranky Old Man bunker, supporting the same principles tomorrow as I did yesterday.

edit: Actually this was unnecessary. Sticking to same principles is good in theory. It does not work in practice, though.

And hey, you do realize that people are not electing "right and wrong", but the candidate for the presidency, right? So "right and wrong" imply nothing else but condescension.

He lost. He has no way of winning. His popularity and ability to have an effect were democratically analyzed and guess what - he has none. His rabid fans didn't have any other effect than to ridicule Paul even more.

[Goober5000]

What does integrity mean? Seriously. You describe Paul as an "integrate" candidate. What does this mean in practice?

it means he knows how to integrate.  other candidates only know how to multiply and divide.  some candidates even have trouble with add and subtract.