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Offline Koth

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
It doesn't make sense. In campaigns full of campaign variables/wide use of is-previous-event-true|false. Try to play something like Derelict and realize in mission...36...that you can't proceed because of your cheats. Will you find that interesting?

I rarely if ever have trouble caused by cheating. It's not that I activate cheats and then proceed to blow everything up with my cheated BFreds.
Most of the time I just make myself invulnerable and give myself unlimited ammunition. Oh and before anybody thinks I am a lousy player, I played through both the FS1 and the FS2 Main campaigns on medium without cheats.
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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
Bleah...you really do that? :ick: :P

I'm only saying that. Advanced SEXPs and variables are recent and campaigns that can really screw up cheaters might arrive soon :P

 

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
Advanced SEXPs and variables are recent and campaigns that can really screw up cheaters might arrive soon :P
Bah, I fail to see how making myself invulnerable can break anything.
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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
Does sabotage subsystem work? What if I want to shut most of your systems down during the mission? What if I just don't want you to get close to a group of ships armed with powerful AAA beams? :P

 

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
What if I want to shut most of your systems down during the mission?

Bad luck, eh? :P
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
What if I want to shut most of your systems down during the mission? What if I just don't want you to get close to a group of ships armed with powerful AAA beams? :P
You can't always get what you want.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Offline Mobius

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
Koth: Where's the problem? Future campaigns might be different from the ones you player before, with all the new features... :P

You can't always get what you want.

No, as player. YES, as mission designer.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
You can't always get what you want.
No, as player. YES, as mission designer.
No. And no.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
Like karajorma said, just put a few lines in the readme or the campaign description in the Campaign room.

DO NOT CHEAT OR IT WILL BREAK

Or something a bit more articulate.

 

Offline Mobius

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
No. And no.

Can you please forget JAD for one moment? If the mission designer wants the player to do or not to do something succeeds. Full stop.

Like karajorma said, just put a few lines in the readme or the campaign description in the Campaign room.

DO NOT CHEAT OR IT WILL BREAK

Or something a bit more articulate.

Which is a good idea :yes:

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
Can you please forget JAD for one moment? If the mission designer wants the player to do or not to do something succeeds. Full stop.
Umm, no. And who said anything about JAD? There are cases even in the FS2 campaign. Take Exodus, for example. :v: couldn't prevent the player from saving the Nebtuu.

Like karajorma said, just put a few lines in the readme or the campaign description in the Campaign room.
Hey! I said that.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
These SEXPs are becoming too advanced, one day they might take over humanity...

Anyway, it is the players right to cheat, don't take it away from him/her

  

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
These SEXPs are becoming too advanced, one day they might take over humanity...

Anyway, it is the players right to cheat, don't take it away from him/her

Hey Peter! :lol:

Umm, no. And who said anything about JAD? There are cases even in the FS2 campaign. Take Exodus, for example. :v: couldn't prevent the player from saving the Nebtuu.

In JAD Alpha 1 > FRED :P

Please don't mention FS1/FS2 missions, :v: didn't have advanced SEXPs and they could have easily scripted "this must happen!" events.

 
Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!

Hey! I said that.
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I'll be sure to make a note of it

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
Sorry, Lobo.

 

Offline FUBAR-BDHR

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Re: Freespace running too fast...help!!!
Only cheats I ever use are the one to list all the missions in a campaign file in the tech room and making myself invincible to help with mission testing.  Of course I just do the second one in FRED.  It's also very useful for taking screen shots.
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