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Offline BlackDove

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Offline achtung

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Looks like Sony got it right this time around.
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Offline Ransom

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While it wasn't my preferred format, I'll be glad to see the back of this ridiculousness. It's about time.

 

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Offline Kosh

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I'm just sad to see the evil empire Sony win. :p
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Offline Mefustae

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I'll be honest, I was kinda rooting for HD-DVD because the failure of Blu-ray would have been a major kick in the balls for Sony. As it stands, I honestly don't really care. Seriously, where there any major differences between the two formats that would effect the end user?

 

Offline Ransom

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HD DVD was region free.

That's basically it.

 

Offline Kazan

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Seriously, where there any major differences between the two formats that would effect the end user?

Blu Ray stores 25GB per layer - so 50GB per comercial disk as opposed to 15GB/layer 30GB/disk for HD DVD

Blu Ray supports region coding.. but 2/3rds of all blu ray disks don't have a region tag on them.

blu ray's copy protection hasn't been broken yet.. but it's just a matter of time
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I did a bit of research back in the day, and decided to 'side' with HD-DVD.  But its a close call, as far as the consumer is concerned.  Even though the HD-DVD only stores 30GB, the argument was that you really didn't need the extra 20GB, since there would never be anything to put on it.  You could put all the extras you wanted and it would never get full, even in HD format.

Another argument in the case for HD-DVD was that the discs and players were extremely cheap to make.  Basically, only slight modifications to existing DVD factories had to be made in order to make HD-DVDs.  This would result in the prices dropping much faster after the initial boom.  Blu Ray has to make entirely new factories / equipment in order to produce their wares.

With Blu Ray winning, it basically just means that the average consumer won't buy their hi-def movie playing stuff until a few years later down the road, until production costs drop dramatically.

 

Offline Polpolion

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I never saw a HD DVD in action. How's the quality compare to Blu-Ray?

 

Offline Herra Tohtori

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blu ray's copy protection hasn't been broken yet.. but it's just a matter of time


I thought they used the same system as the HD-DVD for copy protection/encryption... (AACS) :nervous:
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Offline Kazan

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blu ray has some enhancements on top of AACS
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Offline BlackDove

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I love all of you guys with your "picks" and "sides".

All so cute.

 
Eh, I'll just wait for the replacement for blue-ray LOL
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Offline Nuke

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i dont think ive bought a dvd in over 4 years, so i really dont care who wins. if i had to choose between sony, a company known for really evil drm, and toshiba which sorta half assed it (which is good cause drm sucks balls), i woulda picked toshiba, but thats beside the point. i would have perfered a general purpose format. also comes the question why are we still using discs when the internet is pretty fast and everything has wireless. high definition isnt that big of a deal, you dont watch a movie to count pixels and it only makes bad special effects look worse. if resolution is what you want, watch movies on your computer screen.
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Offline S-99

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It really doesn't matter who wins, because the HD content on both mediums in the end is going to be the same. This was more a battle of features and cost. I don't care that sony's winning the battle as the only two places i get movies is tv and the theater. Commentaries and extra's suck, deleted scenes can also suck but it depends on the situation for them, such as a cool movie like lord of the rings trilogy. The other thing that doesn't make any sense on the new hd mediums is the new sound standards and encoding they have. With all that storage on the new HD mediums, movie makers can afford to just use raw PCM audio only which sounds better for explosions and such. Oh no, now there's dolby digital hd, with all of that storage why not do away with dolby as well? Uncompressed movie audio is as good as audio gets for movies period. It's also a little odd to think how new audio standards need to come out for the HD mediums since movie audio in general hasn't changed, and doesn't really need to. Or maybe i'm missing something here and people making HD content are starting to support lossless compression algorithms.
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Call me when someone has figured out how to make cheap, writeable data storage disks and drives of Blu-ray or HD-DVD size. Till then I couldn't give a stuff.

This is just an excuse to charge an even higher amount for the same movies you already (could) have bought on DVD and blame it on the expense of producing them in HD. Funny how the price doesn't come back down once the price of making them falls below the price of the established medium though. 

We saw this happen with the Video to DVD transition and I'm just pissing myself with laughter at how everyone is lining up and presenting so that the winning HD format could **** them in the arse again.
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Offline BlackDove

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And when the research on holographic disks is complete, they will be unleashed to the world! and their massive storage capacity and cheap production costs will sway them HD-DVD and Blu-Ray! MWUHIHIHI!

(Some random post based on real information. Read an article in the CT about holographic disks, and my cents are on that one).

Anyway, why did Sony win? (Sniff). That company will probably add an rootkit to every disc they make, and when they sold millions of Blu-Ray discs, cancel our rights to use the contents on it, and force us to purchase new again!

(Again, random post based on things that really happened.)

 

Offline Nuke

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This is just an excuse to charge an even higher amount for the same movies you already (could) have bought on DVD and blame it on the expense of producing them in HD. Funny how the price doesn't come back down once the price of making them falls below the price of the established medium though. 

We saw this happen with the Video to DVD transition and I'm just pissing myself with laughter at how everyone is lining up and presenting so that the winning HD format could **** them in the arse again.

as well as with the transition from cassette tapes to cd. it bugs me that weve gone through 2 dvd formats yet the obsolete cd has not been upgraded (much) in over 25 years.
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